so does steve not like the goodyear's then?

which tyres have you got? The mystery is killing me?? Ha ha ha, no the gyf1 are very good in the summer!! They are not great all round tyre IMHO. There are better tyres out there, but cost more , but I wouldn't put my life at risk again through crap tyres in winter? This is what happened to me through those tyres, lost control of the ed30 was doing 25mph coming up to jct, and the car didn't stop very lucky no one hit me on ether side!! Little bit of snow on the ground that's what happens? Hope my reasons are good enough and lerning curve for some on the forum! Enjoy steve