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Offline 1300mk2

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Re: 16v tappets, etc
« Reply #40 on: 21 November 2004, 20:43 »
including the tappets

Veedubgt18v

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Re: 16v tappets, etc
« Reply #41 on: 21 November 2004, 21:08 »
you guys modifiying cars is frightening to listen to at times...


whys that because you dont understand?


I'm sorry, i find this hysterically funny....

I take it all back.

You, and whoever discovered that changing tappets increasing the rev"ability" of your engine, are obviously better engine designers than VWs own inhouse engineers. Now that - is funny.

Its not like VW spent a few million DMs designing a 16v head, and never concluded that lightwieght tappets were the way to go!!

besides 16v heads were made in what 87 or something? im talking about tappets off of more modern vag engines. of course things are gonna evolve over time and we are talking a decade, materials and technology and machining tolerances get better and better, things are now lighter and stronger than they ever were. its like moving from cast iron blocks etc to aluminium.

vw are good but they arent exactly fearrai or aston martin are they? they have cost and mass producing to think of. tinman you are not the be all and end all of vw knowledge, although you seem to think you are.

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Re: 16v tappets, etc
« Reply #42 on: 21 November 2004, 21:30 »
so are you saying that because vw spent so much money developing cylinder heads that they can't be improved? their breif would have been cofined to a budget and the confines of mass production otherwise all the parts would have been hand made. the cylinder heads would have come out of the factory ported and polished. Virtually everything on a mass produced engine can be improved. believe 8)


for people who have opened up their engines this is very strange. has anyone actually looked at the cams?

the tappet does not go on and off like a switch. the cam has a shape that starts opening the tappet until it is fully open. it then starts closing the tappet.

this open and close is not a full on and off, its a gradual on and then a gradual off. so the weight of the tappet plays no part in it. the open and close is dictated by the rotation of the cam.

the idea that you want to balance the tappets is very odd. they hardly weigh anything in the first place. plus they are machine tooled which will have incredibly tight tolerances. the reason you balance piston heads though is because they are cast and then machine tooled.

a mass produced engine is a compromise, thats why you can improve it. however, for every change you make there is a counter action.

cause and effect.

Veedubgt18v

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Re: 16v tappets, etc
« Reply #43 on: 21 November 2004, 21:35 »
yes thats true of the cam but a tappet is still sprung weight, i.e a weight above the valve held there by the valve springs which if it was lighter would take less to move. and what point are you trying to make with your counter action bit?

and yes i have 'opened up' my engine so know very well what cams etc look like and how they work thank you.

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Re: 16v tappets, etc
« Reply #44 on: 21 November 2004, 21:39 »
i wouldnt bother its obvious tinman is more knowledgable than a garage full of vw engine tuners ::)

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Re: 16v tappets, etc
« Reply #45 on: 21 November 2004, 21:43 »
yeah that was gonna be my last post im to busy laughing at lambo doors in chat!  ;D

mark i need to do my cambelt soon gonna try do before xmas

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Re: 16v tappets, etc
« Reply #46 on: 21 November 2004, 21:50 »
have fun freezing your fingers ;D man i hate doing jobs in the winter, it always hurts more when you slip off the socket :P

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Re: 16v tappets, etc
« Reply #47 on: 21 November 2004, 21:52 »
yeah i know well we will see how work goes and stuff

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Re: 16v tappets, etc
« Reply #48 on: 25 November 2004, 15:55 »
Back to the origional point, buy some valve lifter, it goes in with the oil and cures all hydraulic rattles, and makes the engine run a bit better from cold.