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Re: 16v tappets, etc
« Reply #10 on: 16 November 2004, 13:13 »
the reduced weight is for performance reasons tinman ;)

i ran this past some people who know several few weeks ago when someone first mentioned it.

its a myth.

a quick check on a vw mag shows that the tappet has the same part number all the way through to 95 anyway.
« Last Edit: 16 November 2004, 13:29 by tinman »

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Re: 16v tappets, etc
« Reply #11 on: 16 November 2004, 18:07 »
myth to you mate ;)

we got told this from a vw tuning company called the phirm and im sure they arent stupid. i dunno which tappets they meant, im sure they said mk3 ones ???

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Re: 16v tappets, etc
« Reply #12 on: 16 November 2004, 19:29 »
hmm compare and discuss:

"yes mate, if we change your tappets for these super duper Mk3 tappets your car is gonna go faster, heres how much it will cost...."

"my grandma - what big teeth you have"

think about it - tappets have very little to do with performance. they are simply a bit of metal that gets smashed on the head repeatedly.
« Last Edit: 16 November 2004, 20:26 by tinman »

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Re: 16v tappets, etc
« Reply #13 on: 16 November 2004, 23:05 »
but if they are lighter does that also not mean they will change direction quicker therefore helping the car to rev a tiny bit quicker? it all helps ;)

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Re: 16v tappets, etc
« Reply #14 on: 17 November 2004, 10:12 »
eerrmm. no.

if they changed direction quicker then in theory they will open the valve earlier. if the valve opens earlier then the engine will start mis-timing and you lose power.

the cycle of the tappet is very simple - down and then up - you don't want this to happen any faster or slower otherwise your valves will open and close at the wrong time.

but that won't happen anyway.

the next issue is that tappets do not have any performance qualities what so ever. They are merely a device to keep a pressure on the valve and to open and close it at a predetermined time.

from my quick look at part numbers - all VWs up to 95 seem to use the same tappet. there is no "performance" tappet. A tappet is a tappet is a tappet.

in theory you can change a single tappet. if that tappet performed any differently than the rest of the tappets then you would have serious problems on your hands. you would certainly get some form of valve overlap.

however, it transpires that all tappets are the same, they open the valve, they close the valve.

what is interesting is that some company has told you that they make a difference - when the part is the same!

i personally would still use the original VW part.

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Re: 16v tappets, etc
« Reply #15 on: 17 November 2004, 10:18 »
whatever the tappets will always be in sync if you use the same tappets ;) (dont know why you would thing id just change one or two ???)

mate if you dont believe me fine, your loss. cant be arsed to argue with you and you havent changed my mind
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Re: 16v tappets, etc
« Reply #16 on: 17 November 2004, 10:55 »
i'm not saying you would change one or two, i'm saying that in theory you could.

mate - i don't believe you. have a look at your engine - the tappets are a small component that make no difference to power. thats why the 16v has the same tappets as the 8v, which has the same tappets as 1.8 which has the same tappets as a 1.6 - which coincidently are the same as 1.3, which are also probably the same on the G60 and G60 Limited.

THE TAPPETS ARE ALL THE SAME. THERE IS NO ALL CONQUERING TAPPET  >:D

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Re: 16v tappets, etc
« Reply #17 on: 17 November 2004, 11:36 »
Dont say that! :o
PAY HOMAGE TO THE ALL CONQUERING TAPPET........ WE ARE NO WORTHY ;)

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Re: 16v tappets, etc
« Reply #18 on: 17 November 2004, 11:46 »
BOW DOWN BEFORE MY TAPPETS? ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D[/size][/b]

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Re: 16v tappets, etc
« Reply #19 on: 17 November 2004, 12:11 »
calm down kids ;D

if thats right then it could benefit all those models as well then ;) think he said something about them being thinner aswell? could open the valves a bit more or something like that too ??? they are excellent engine tuners there and theres no bullsh!t

your arguing with the wrong person really cos i dont know all the details, i was just told in a conversation.
« Last Edit: 17 November 2004, 12:12 by veedubgti16v »