Brand new, about 10 miles in the clock, if your lucky enough to phone around and a dealer has a stock car and it's the end of their quarter, normally you get a good deal! I think the deals will become more common with the arrival of the R and cancelled GTI orders.. A R to the same spec as my GTI would cost over 9k more than I paid.. Although I would love a R, who wouldn't, I couldn't justify 9k for 4WD, 60hp and Xenons...