Which looks better..... Golf R or Golf GTI.

[p3eps]

Unfortunately the R is fugly. Only R I think looks nice is p3eps in his sig.

Cheers dude 

[ErikGTI]

The cloth interior on the R is sh1t,  I like the recaros but not at the price!! so it would have to be leather and VW leather is pretty poor!

I prefer the back split exhausts on the GTI but like the leds on the R, could mod them on to my GTI at some point then I'd be a very happy bunny

Can you be more specific about WHY you think the leather quality is poor I have ordered Vienna Black Leather on the GTI (after factory) so I can still make up my mind...my first impression was good quality, I had a sample ...and sat in the Sirocco with leather...

I am a happy bunny since I will soon have the split exhausts as well as the Led Tail lights on my GTI...

[gizzywizzy]

Best mate has a mk5 with leather, the car is only 3years but the leather has gone all saggy and badly wrinkled it also has a tear in the drivers seat just from use.

My Peugeot 307 had leather seats and after 3 years it was as good as new.

ETTO tho!

Gizzy

[mac7]

Apart from the fact there's not a great deal of actual leather there, the leather that is used isn't very high quality. Like gizzy's friend, I've found it ages quickly. The stuff in my old Touareg was good, but not what they use in the Passats and Golfs.

[JJH]

Apart from the fact there's not a great deal of actual leather there, the leather that is used isn't very high quality. Like gizzy's friend, I've found it ages quickly. The stuff in my old Touareg was good, but not what they use in the Passats and Golfs.

Agree with the quality of the Touareg leather quality, my old man has a V10TDI (for sale) and even after 4 years looks great, much better than the new Q7. Leather suppliers use plenty of tricks to hide imperfections. The leather in a Golf is skived to a very thin thickness. One of the reasons I didnt specify leather is that i know how much of a rip off it is; the additional cost of leather over cloth is approx. £300 per car at most.

As to which looks better, at the moment, the R, but thats only because I havent seen one in the flesh yet....
As the old saying goes, beauty is in the eye of the beholder...

[devito]

eric, the scirocco seats r much better so dont use that to decide. i down graded from leather to cloth once i realised that the golf seats in leather r s-it.

[ErikGTI]

I am definitely gonna contact the dealer to get him to order better leather.....it would be a nightmare to find my leather to go bad after 2 years or so...thanks guys 

Edit: I have mailed him (without revealing my source  ) and said that if the leather is the same as on the MK V I will make it a "no go" and want (to pay extra) better quality.

[JJH]

Eric, be careful you dont go wasting money. The appearance of the leather seats is not only influenced by the quality of the leather but the pattern engineering that goes into making the covers. You can have the worlds finest leather but if the pattern is just alittle out the seat will still look crap.  The main area of concern on these seats is the thigh bolsters closest to the doors. The reason it creases so badly on occasion is a lack of tension in the pattern, the resistance to change in that area relies on the foam, other areas of the seat have much more restricted movement due to the retention cords, tapes and clips attaching the cover to the seat frame. The reason cloth covers appear better is that the cloth manufacturers are able to control the stretch charactisitcs in a way that cannot be acheived with leather. You could quite easily find that whoever you use, the risk of creasing etc to the blosters remains. Good luck,,

[ErikGTI]

There is also another issue I overlooked but could be in my advantage..

I have 2 friends who ordered aftermarket leather on there new Saab....comparing that with the "original" leather upholstery they both discovered that their upholstery in both cases was done at a rather visual  higher standard ...

Very amazing since I always thought the opposite (no substitute for leather out of the factory )...but that seems not always true..

[keelaw]

I am definitely gonna contact the dealer to get him to order better leather.....it would be a nightmare to find my leather to go bad after 2 years or so...thanks guys 

erm.... they have different standards of leather you can spec?  somehow i find that v hard to believe!