Driver engine just died want to convert to GTI 16v - can it be done, How?

[Saskatoon]

I know it's not dramatic or sexy but it's got teeth.  Can it be done quickly?

My 1.6 driver engine on carb has just developed a nasty leak from behind block from a core plug.  I think the engine frooze up over Chrimbo when I moth-balled it.  I did check anti-freeze before she sat from before chrimbo eve until yesterday.  The metal water pip also split and the water pump belt snapped?

I can afford a GTi engine and box only.  I would put a 1.8t from an Octavia RS if I could afford it - but whats the real point when I have got an Octavia RS anyway.  I love this Golf.  It's tactile and properly made and can be parked anywhere and chucked about.

It already has fully adjustable koni's all round and slammed.  DTM exhaust, full leather Recaro interior, Alpine i.c.e and Sony xplod speakers, TSW alloys.  It's far to good to bin.

Will a 1.8 16v Gti be an easy fit - or ball ache like my brother says?

Can I have as much feedback as poss?

[danny_p]

wang an abf in.  if anything i would say its an easyer conversion

[jamie_pyrite]

Well you're going to have to change all your fuel lines, change the in-tank fuel pump and bolt an external pump to the underside of the car. You'll need new gti driveshafts as the 1.6 ones are 90mm, you need 100mm shafts. You'll need the ECU and wiring, some other stuff.. You can use the same mounts fine. You'll need a new exhaust system or just a new downpipe to mate to the 16v exhaust manifold.

It's not *that* hard to do if you're handy with a spanner and have the right tools.

Oh, plus you'll want better brakes and stuff!

[jezza16v]

It seems from the feedback that its going to cost you a lot more than just the engine & gearbox to make it an 8v or 16v gti. If money is tight and you want a bit more power, why not just find a 1.8 carb engine and put a weber on it (and maybe a gti head if you can be bothered). It looks pretty good as it is but it's never going to be a proper gti so why bother with all the grief of fuel pumps, ecu, brakes etc. If you want a 16v gti just save your money and buy one ready made? 

[Horney]

If money and time is an issue get yourself an 8v GTI lump and drop it on your existing gearbox setup and jsut uprate the carb and block the injector holes.

Nick

[Wayne]

Alfa sud 

[Saskatoon]

YYeerr

Alfasud!!! - she's a beauty.  There's no welding ever been done on this one, and it's 99.9% rot free  It's got genuine 25K on clock with full histry file and a sweet gearbox no crunches in second.  It has the Uber rare alfastyl bodykit, which Alfa Romeo teams use in the supercharged 1.7 suds in the class B racing in the 1980's.  She also has Autodelta high lifting cams and full stainless racing exhaust.   It also is rare, because Alfa Romeo UK ran out of Alfasud stock in February 1984 and this one was registered in July 1984 so was just about the last sold anywhere in the country.

The best thing is about owning a sud is this.  I can park up anywahere in the UK, and I will never see another one go by, however there never a shortage of blokes coming over saying they owned one when they we young and asking to buy it.  Money can't buy that feeling of exclusivity.  That's because there are only 36 suds left in UK

This is the wrong forum, so nuff said.

[jezza16v]

YYeerr

Alfasud!!! - she's a beauty.  There's no welding ever been done on this one, and it's 99.9% rot free  It's got genuine 25K on clock with full histry file and a sweet gearbox no crunches in second.  It has the Uber rare alfastyl bodykit, which Alfa Romeo teams use in the supercharged 1.7 suds in the class B racing in the 1980's.  She also has Autodelta high lifting cams and full stainless racing exhaust.   It also is rare, because Alfa Romeo UK ran out of Alfasud stock in February 1984 and this one was registered in July 1984 so was just about the last sold anywhere in the country.

The best thing is about owning a sud is this.  I can park up anywahere in the UK, and I will never see another one go by, however there never a shortage of blokes coming over saying they owned one when they we young and asking to buy it.  Money can't buy that feeling of exclusivity.  That's because there are only 36 suds left in UK

This is the wrong forum, so nuff said.

Hard to believe there's any left at all, I had a lovely '82 red Tii cloverleaf, fantastic boxer engine but it literally dissolved on my drive 
Had a 2.0 GTV as well, that went the same way   

[Saskatoon]

I to owned a few years ago a 1.5ti Green Cloverleaf.  I foolishly sold it as a going concern to a guy in Derbyshire.  He spent a lot of money restoring it - and now it is the best sud in Britain and Alfa UK use it for promotions it's that good.  A136 ASM was the reg.  This is why I'm not letting go of this current sud.  I really regretted getting rid of last one.

[maxp]

YYeerr

Alfasud!!! - she's a beauty.  There's no welding ever been done on this one, and it's 99.9% rot free  It's got genuine 25K on clock with full histry file and a sweet gearbox no crunches in second.  It has the Uber rare alfastyl bodykit, which Alfa Romeo teams use in the supercharged 1.7 suds in the class B racing in the 1980's.  She also has Autodelta high lifting cams and full stainless racing exhaust.   It also is rare, because Alfa Romeo UK ran out of Alfasud stock in February 1984 and this one was registered in July 1984 so was just about the last sold anywhere in the country.

The best thing is about owning a sud is this.  I can park up anywahere in the UK, and I will never see another one go by, however there never a shortage of blokes coming over saying they owned one when they we young and asking to buy it.  Money can't buy that feeling of exclusivity.  That's because there are only 36 suds left in UK

This is the wrong forum, so nuff said.

Curious to know where you got that number from? VOSA shows that 89 went through their MOT in 2007, so that's a hell of a drop in 2/3 years.