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Re: How are people justifying their R's
« Reply #20 on: 27 December 2009, 13:17 »
It will be very interesting to see how the Golf R fairs on resale values in a few years as its nothing special, there are plenty of 4pot 2.0 turbos about and its the same car as an S3. There is no other hatchback you can buy with a 3.2 V6 and 4wd so thats why they are so strong second hand and people are willing to pay to get them, i made £1500 profit on my car - nearly had a years free motoring (excluding petrol)

Not saying the R wont do well but im curious, what with the short production run of the MK6, the fact the new Audi A3 is out soon and the new S3, RS3 will be along shortly after, both being a better car (presumably) than the Golf.

I very much hope they R drops as i would love to chuck an R36 engine in it, charge it and have the best hatchback you could buy  :evil:

Just been looking around for predicted residuals, but couldnt find them yet - guess its too early.

Found this though

http://www.whatcar.com/car-reviews/volkswagen/golf-hatchback/2-0-tsi-270-r-5dr/summary/58949



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The fastest Golf isn’t necessarily the best. We’d save ourselves a few quid and go for the GTI. It does most of what the R does, and it’ll cost you way less.

You could say he same about the GTD to the GTI, or the GT to the GTI, or the 1.6 to the GT etc etc

Idiots!

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Re: How are people justifying their R's
« Reply #21 on: 27 December 2009, 13:27 »
Does your company actually buy the cars then rather than leasing them (like my company)?

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Re: How are people justifying their R's
« Reply #22 on: 27 December 2009, 16:24 »
The BMW M3 and Audi S4 were on my shopping list for my next car. I was about to commit, when along came the former night-mayor of London, Ken Livingstone, with his super congestion charge / tax on anything that emitted over 225 g/ km. I was not prepared to pay the £25 per day so all bets were off. Add the fact that the new M3 is the wrong side of £50K, when the last one was not much more than £39K, and suddenly the cost of running a sports car had become stratospheric. The Audi wasn't much better, with a decent set of options  easily pushing up the S4's price close to £50K. Luckily, Red Ken was not re-elected, but then by chance i rode in a friend's R32. Wow! What a car. Then along comes the Mk VI Golf in GTI and now R flavours. GTI is incredible. But the R is on another planet. Fully loaded, it is still substantially cheaper than the M3 and, best of all, it looks like a bog standard Golf, except for the tailpipes, so doesn't attract attention. I like that Q-car style. All Golfs are practical in town with 5 seats, but an R can blitz it across Europe. Add the further benefit of AWD for winter conditions and it has everything.

I am not alone in trading down from a Beemer to a VW. One other benefit: much nicer forum!

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Re: How are people justifying their R's
« Reply #23 on: 27 December 2009, 16:40 »
I am not alone in trading down from a Beemer to a VW. One other benefit: much nicer forum!
Very true alot of mk5 GTI owners when it first came out came from BMWs
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Re: How are people justifying their R's
« Reply #24 on: 27 December 2009, 17:06 »
The BMW M3 and Audi S4 were on my shopping list for my next car. I was about to commit, when along came the former night-mayor of London, Ken Livingstone, with his super congestion charge / tax on anything that emitted over 225 g/ km. I was not prepared to pay the £25 per day so all bets were off. Add the fact that the new M3 is the wrong side of £50K, when the last one was not much more than £39K, and suddenly the cost of running a sports car had become stratospheric. The Audi wasn't much better, with a decent set of options  easily pushing up the S4's price close to £50K. Luckily, Red Ken was not re-elected, but then by chance i rode in a friend's R32. Wow! What a car. Then along comes the Mk VI Golf in GTI and now R flavours. GTI is incredible. But the R is on another planet. Fully loaded, it is still substantially cheaper than the M3 and, best of all, it looks like a bog standard Golf, except for the tailpipes, so doesn't attract attention. I like that Q-car style. All Golfs are practical in town with 5 seats, but an R can blitz it across Europe. Add the further benefit of AWD for winter conditions and it has everything.

I am not alone in trading down from a Beemer to a VW. One other benefit: much nicer forum!



i think you have pretty much nailed it there. Its becoming alot easier to downgrade... however for those wanting to upgrade its becoming alittle more difficult :embarassed:

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Re: How are people justifying their R's
« Reply #25 on: 27 December 2009, 17:20 »
Have you driven the Golf R then Tailpipe ?  Or do you mean Golf R is on another planet pricewise? I await reviews eagerly and  a testdrive myself hoping it is not like a S3 as i and many others prefer a mk6 gti or a mk5 R32 to a S3. Hence why i havent ordered yet
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Re: How are people justifying their R's
« Reply #26 on: 27 December 2009, 23:12 »
Pffft good luck getting a testdrive.

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Re: How are people justifying their R's
« Reply #27 on: 28 December 2009, 17:08 »
Does your company actually buy the cars then rather than leasing them (like my company)?

We tend to buy rather than lease due to the flexibility.

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Re: How are people justifying their R's
« Reply #28 on: 28 December 2009, 17:10 »
^ Thats one of the reason ours does too. It also meen if we need to keep them abit longer for any reason its not a problem.

I still think all you private 'R' orders are mad, I would never buy something i had not tried.
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Re: How are people justifying their R's
« Reply #29 on: 28 December 2009, 17:16 »
Have you driven the Golf R then Tailpipe ?  Or do you mean Golf R is on another planet pricewise? I await reviews eagerly and  a testdrive myself hoping it is not like a S3 as i and many others prefer a mk6 gti or a mk5 R32 to a S3. Hence why i havent ordered yet

I'm not sure the S3 is worse than a MK6 GTI, that also seems to lack the soul as well. From the limited write up's so far it doesnt look like the new R is going to set the world alight and nothing to to say it will be vastly different to the S3, but like I mentioned earlier in this thread the TTS is a much nicer drivers car than the S3. Audi worked hard on items such as the exhaust and induction noise in the TTS. It did make the driving experience a lot nicer and with std Mag Ride fitted to enhance the experience.

When I bought my current car I expected to be trading it for the R in 2010. The move is a downgrade if I took the R, but I expected more for my money that VW seem to want to offer.