100% black with the 17s, when painted black it makes the wheel seem bigger as it blends in with the tyre sidewall. Dont go for gloss though they are feckin impossible to keep clean and when they are clean there is too much of a differance in colour between the matt finsh of tyre and the gloss finish off the wheels, the best compromise is a mixture of gloss and matt, which quite a few finishers will offer the one that looks the best is the 30% gloss black, same colour as some oem lambo wheels and looks the absolute tittys !, ive had it on one of my previous cars (silver mk4 gti) and loved them, its just a pitty that i have a black car now or i would go for it again