Torque V's BHP/What's your view?

[Jkctr]

Depends on the weight and gearing. My type r pissed all over remapped diesels if i was using the gears properly but would struggle if they caught me out.

[Rhyso]

Both 225 bhp,one has 80 more ft/lbs torque(diesel) which do you think would be quicker?

this doesn't happen to relate to that video you posted a few weeks back 

[Grand Master Patch]

Both 225 bhp,one has 80 more ft/lbs torque(diesel) which do you think would be quicker?

this doesn't happen to relate to that video you posted a few weeks back 

Sort of,but not as much as a diesel bashing as you think.A friend of mine seems to think the diesel isn't running right due to the amount of smoke that it chucks out.

[bobbarley]

Both 225 bhp,one has 80 more ft/lbs torque(diesel) which do you think would be quicker?

this doesn't happen to relate to that video you posted a few weeks back 

Sort of,but not as much as a diesel bashing as you think.A friend of mine seems to think the diesel isn't running right due to the amount of smoke that it chucks out.

Rhys is your expert on that then! 

[topher]

jules you're such a vtec fanboy, you're well practiced at defending the civic's lack of torque

elaborate anyway GMP.. are you talking styles of tuning on the same engine, or petrol vs diseasel?

[Jkctr]

Remember as well its also the amount of torque/bhp throughout the rev range. Most diesels have higher peak torque figures than petrols but wank power bands, peaking early over a few rpm's where as cars with lower peak figures have more torque throughout the rev range.

So many variables involved in a car vs car debate. My car isnt quicker than an M3 (e46) but i murdered one the other day as i had a variable in my favor in the rain (traction) doesnt mean my car is quicker.

jules you're such a vtec fanboy, you're well practiced at defending the civic's lack of torque

elaborate anyway GMP.. are you talking styles of tuning on the same engine, or petrol vs diseasel?

The N/A vtec engine is the perfect example of how a lack of peak torque but good bhp figure and well spread power band and gearing can make a quick car.

[Rhyso]

Both 225 bhp,one has 80 more ft/lbs torque(diesel) which do you think would be quicker?

this doesn't happen to relate to that video you posted a few weeks back 

Sort of,but not as much as a diesel bashing as you think.A friend of mine seems to think the diesel isn't running right due to the amount of smoke that it chucks out.

Could be over fuelling    mine chucks out hardly any smoke since fitting a nice clean intercooler.  Has he got a catch tank fitted?

[bobbarley]

I thought I'd throw the Mazda RX8 into the mix as well. It's seriously lacking in torque, has about 237bhp.  Goes DAMN fast, but requires one to rev the nuts off it!!

[tonyg]

The N/A vtec engine is the perfect example of how a lack of peak torque but good bhp figure and well spread power band and gearing can make a quick car.

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Once you've wound it up! I notice you swapped it for a,erm torquey V6

[Grand Master Patch]

Both 225 bhp,one has 80 more ft/lbs torque(diesel) which do you think would be quicker?

this doesn't happen to relate to that video you posted a few weeks back 

Sort of,but not as much as a diesel bashing as you think.A friend of mine seems to think the diesel isn't running right due to the amount of smoke that it chucks out.

Could be over fuelling    mine chucks out hardly any smoke since fitting a nice clean intercooler.  Has he got a catch tank fitted?

No catch tank as yet,does over fuelling cause that massive plume of smoke?