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Offline James Gould

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Re: Emperor's new clothes?
« Reply #60 on: 11 November 2009, 20:06 »
Thnx, pal - was sunroof a 'must' for you?

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Re: Emperor's new clothes?
« Reply #61 on: 11 November 2009, 21:26 »
James, is your last name Cozzens? For those of you going  :huh: Do a google or Wikpedia search.
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Re: Emperor's new clothes?
« Reply #62 on: 11 November 2009, 21:41 »
Thnx, pal - was sunroof a 'must' for you?

It was for me.

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Re: Emperor's new clothes?
« Reply #63 on: 11 November 2009, 22:36 »
James, is your last name Cozzens? For those of you going  :huh: Do a google or Wikpedia search.

so he died 21 years ago?!  i've heard of ghosts in the system, but this is ridiculous!
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Re: Emperor's new clothes?
« Reply #64 on: 12 November 2009, 00:29 »
Is DSG like 'the Emperor's New Clothes'? No disrespect intended but a lot of you guys are saying you love driving but have chosen DSG - you say it's great and that you love it but I can't understand how it can be as involving as driving a manual with a clutch - I do agree that the technology is clever and I do feel 'techno stubborn' thinking like I do but if something is being removed then, by definition, it can't be as good - have any of you who love driving chosen the DSG and regretted it? Does it make sense that I can get my head around the technology in Astons, Porsches and Ferraris but not in a 'hot hatch' - isn't the point of 'hot hatch' to have fun and involvement? Maybe if I'd done the manual hot hatch thing before, I'd not feel this way but....the way I feel, does anyone think I could/would be happy if I were to choose the DSG?

It's so good even my granny (a manual die hard) would like it.
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Re: Emperor's new clothes?
« Reply #65 on: 12 November 2009, 04:06 »
Is DSG like 'the Emperor's New Clothes'? No disrespect intended but a lot of you guys are saying you love driving but have chosen DSG - you say it's great and that you love it but I can't understand how it can be as involving as driving a manual with a clutch - I do agree that the technology is clever and I do feel 'techno stubborn' thinking like I do but if something is being removed then, by definition, it can't be as good - have any of you who love driving chosen the DSG and regretted it? Does it make sense that I can get my head around the technology in Astons, Porsches and Ferraris but not in a 'hot hatch' - isn't the point of 'hot hatch' to have fun and involvement? Maybe if I'd done the manual hot hatch thing before, I'd not feel this way but....the way I feel, does anyone think I could/would be happy if I were to choose the DSG?

It's so good even my granny (a manual die hard) would like it.

It's also so easy my 8 year old nephew could steer it. I did mean to say steer as there is no driving involved in a car with DSG.


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Re: Emperor's new clothes?
« Reply #66 on: 12 November 2009, 07:42 »
Is DSG like 'the Emperor's New Clothes'? No disrespect intended but a lot of you guys are saying you love driving but have chosen DSG - you say it's great and that you love it but I can't understand how it can be as involving as driving a manual with a clutch - I do agree that the technology is clever and I do feel 'techno stubborn' thinking like I do but if something is being removed then, by definition, it can't be as good - have any of you who love driving chosen the DSG and regretted it? Does it make sense that I can get my head around the technology in Astons, Porsches and Ferraris but not in a 'hot hatch' - isn't the point of 'hot hatch' to have fun and involvement? Maybe if I'd done the manual hot hatch thing before, I'd not feel this way but....the way I feel, does anyone think I could/would be happy if I were to choose the DSG?

It's so good even my granny (a manual die hard) would like it.

It's also so easy my 8 year old nephew could steer it. I did mean to say steer as there is no driving involved in a car with DSG.

It's bizarre to see that so many people think "driving" equates to "pressing a clutch". Oh well, it takes all sorts.

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Re: Emperor's new clothes?
« Reply #67 on: 12 November 2009, 09:20 »
Thnx, pal - was sunroof a 'must' for you?

Yeah have to say it was a 'must' the cabin in the GTI is very dark although I like it, seems like my own private cocoon.  But for nice days it is great to be able to open up the roof and let the fresh air in.  One thing it does tend to boom at certai speeds when open in slide mode.

Have you decided on your spec now then?
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Offline James Gould

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Re: Emperor's new clothes?
« Reply #68 on: 12 November 2009, 10:27 »
Hi, GW
I thought i'd decided on the DSG but was driving a manual car this morning and the clutch/geat thing is so natural for me  -  agghh!!! Truth is that only people who voice regrets, even if only tiny regrets, are those who went for the DSG and say they, even if only slightly, miss their manual  -  I've never read a post from anyone saying went for manual and wished had gone DSG.

Only other thing I need to decide  -  I much prefer the 3 to the 5 door and even with kids, it's not the end of the world if i have to get out to let them out  -  most family journeys are in my wife's Freelander  -  BUT the 5 door allows me to get rear side air bags (and rear seat belt alarm)  -  thing is, some airbag reports say they aren't designed to protect kids and, if fact, the speed of inflation of the things and the area of impact on a child's body as opposed to on an adult's body make the airbags dangerous for kids! The Golf rear side airbags are in the sides of the seats, not the sides of the doors  -  I guess I should contact VW and ask what they think but such is the risk of litigation, they'll probably say nothing.

This is driving me up the flippin' wall  -  ironically, whatever I get....3 or 5, manual or DSG....this or that...once I've got it, I wont think about it again!

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Re: Emperor's new clothes?
« Reply #69 on: 12 November 2009, 11:25 »
Only other thing I need to decide  -  I much prefer the 3 to the 5 door and even with kids, it's not the end of the world if i have to get out to let them out  -  most family journeys are in my wife's Freelander  -  BUT the 5 door allows me to get rear side air bags (and rear seat belt alarm)  -  thing is, some airbag reports say they aren't designed to protect kids and, if fact,

Body structure in a 3 door will obviously be stronger without the extra doors.  OTOH in a big front end collision, could be harder to get people out of the back in a 3 door...

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