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[mds69]

and manual for a short time (another tt in the DSG later this week) but I do remember thinking that the S mode was ridiculous  -  over revved!  -  Yes, manual mode gets round the auto shortfalls but is knocking the 'lever' up and down or flapping the paddles practical on an on-going basis or can you really only do it from time to time?....and, when you're in manual, can you do what you want or does the car 'take over' if she doesn't like what you're doing?

James, with all due respect, you're a nightmare!  You seem to want DSG/Automatic but not unless it's perfect (which it isn't but it's pretty damn good!).  On top of all that you think over-revving a GTi is a bad thing (even my GTD sounds awesome at those revs)  !

Just drive the car and make a decision - don't try to delegate to the forum sub committee! 

[James Gould]

 Likewise, with all due respect, I'm not sure that that's entirely fair  -  I am agonising about the choice between DSG and manual but so so so many people on the forum are agonising about this and that option  -  that's why I came to the forum, to share my agonising with other people who agonise similarly about other things  -  all I was doing in my last post was asking the previous contributor (or does it end with 'er'?) for clarification of the post

[FamilyDub]

James, almost every press-release, review and owner opinion I have seen loves the DSG.

Test drive it going over all routes - Motorway, town, queing to get into IKEA, etc - and your decision will reveal itself

Of course some love it, but it'll always be an extra £1,500 in my pocket and a manual gearbox for me, I think.

[nuketronic]

If you actually questioning between a dsg and manual.. i have to say - " GO FOR THE DSG! ", manuals are for people who REALLY want full time manual.. those people dont even think about DSG.. besides look at the bright side a DSG is a manual too... 

[mds69]

Likewise, with all due respect, I'm not sure that that's entirely fair  -  I am agonising about the choice between DSG and

Fair enough - sorry, wasn't trying to stop you doing that.

Yes, from my experience with the DSG over a bit more than a week, the Auto mode is sometimes annoying (6th gear at less than 50 sometimes).  It's not hard to use the paddles to shift down in advance of accelerating (or just wait for the kick down).

If you're agonising, insist on an extended test drive.  If you can't get that, stick with the manual which is great as well.

[mac7]

There is a huge 39 page discussion/arguement/slanging match on this subject here http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=122285.0 which might help to confuse you a little more.

My advice - think about how you use your car, think about the benefits of an automatic gearbox in those conditions. If there are less than 3, buy a manual.

[gizzywizzy]

James

The manual box is very easy to use and extremely smooth + you are immersed totally in your driving, not letting some auto box do it for you.  The cost of the DSG was what put me off as I really wanted the xenons and ACC and I've not been disappointed.

[James Gould]

Thanks, GW - Enjoy the ACC? Got leather?

[keelaw]

... but is knocking the 'lever' up and down or flapping the paddles practical on an on-going basis or can you really only do it from time to time?....and, when you're in manual, can you do what you want or does the car 'take over' if she doesn't like what you're doing?

you can knock the lever up and down all you like... it is similar to changing gear in a manual only smoother

in manual the car doesn't "take over" unless the revs are waaay too low or you hit the red line.



like i said, for you, get the manual

[James Gould]

I'm going to go against my heart's advice - I'm going to go for the DSG and hope that I enjoy the technology