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Offline Wurzel

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Re: golf r
« Reply #10 on: 07 November 2009, 15:13 »
Same engine as the S3.
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Re: golf r
« Reply #11 on: 07 November 2009, 16:16 »
The Golf GTI uses the new EA888 engine while the Audi S3, Golf R and Scirocco R all use the older EA113 unit. The newer EA888 engine is a much more efficient unit and has a metal cam belt as opposed to the rubber one of the EA113. The S3's engine is a proven unit that is both reliable and powerful. in truth, there is very little to choose between the two engines apart from output. Volkswagen/ Audi is simply brilliant at turbocharging small engines. The extraordinary durability of such engines despite the increased stresses they must endure to deliver significantly greater horsepower is a testament to the VAG's expertise in this area. No one can really say how good or bad the new Golf R will be yet, but given the fantastic write up the 'Roc R has received, i fully expect it get rave reviews too.

A lot of people are annoyed because the Golf R  effectively makes you pay more for less, since it no longer has a VR6 engine. As someone who owned an original VR6 - and loved it, by the way - fuel usage was savage when you kept your foot down. Fuel consumption is still the big problem with today's generation of V8 supersaloons. So IMHO VW was right to make a car that was more frugal as well as more powerful. Personally, i would have loved to see the TT-RS's 5-cylinder engine in the Golf R. That motor is a beast. With something approaching 400 bhp possible, it would M3s for breakfast.

In the meantime, there is an interesting rumour that VW has been very conservative with the Golf R's acceleration figures. While 0-60 in 5.7 seconds is reportedly possible (5.5 seconds with DSG), apparently it is nearer 5 seconds:shocked:

Of course, if the R does prove to be all hype and no substance, we have the GTI to fall back on. I think the GTI is a stunning motor. The R is going to have to be very good to command the significantly higher price VW is asking for it. I suspect VW realises this, so I'm waiting with great excitement.

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Re: golf r
« Reply #12 on: 07 November 2009, 16:21 »

0-62 was 5.5 in DSG... therefore a little quicker to 60 is possible on top of the conservatism.  no need to be conservative with DSG since no fluffed gear changes and launch control  :evil:


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Re: golf r
« Reply #13 on: 07 November 2009, 16:22 »
wouldnt be surprised if figures are actually near 5 or below. vw are very conservative with 0-60 times, just like the roc, claims 7.1, but in actual real time its around 6.5, same with the gti i believe.

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Re: golf r
« Reply #14 on: 07 November 2009, 17:27 »
To me the GOLF R = Exclusivity!!!you are not going to find every Tom,Dick and Harry(mostly Dick$) owning one simply because they are too afraid too pay Audi S3 money for a Golf.Majority of people so far have bad mouthed the Golf R for its pricing but it simply will be the ultimate golf and arguably the ultimate VW,not to say the GTI is'nt as good its brilliant but the Golf R is just that much better.I mean who would have expected a Golf to to do 0-60  in 5.5 seconds.I just think that you wont see as many of them as a GTI or a S3 and thats what already makes it a great car.

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Re: golf r
« Reply #15 on: 07 November 2009, 17:34 »
I was just looking at the new price list.
19s+black headlight surrounds does seem a strainge combo for them to put together as a package.

(I was looking to see if it says what the ET of the 19s were but it does not)
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Re: golf r
« Reply #16 on: 07 November 2009, 18:01 »
For the price the R is for, I rather go for another German sports car... ha ha ha But is the R a sports car? Or just a glorified shopping car? If I am paying that much money for it, I dont want people arguing whether it is a sports car or not... he he he
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Re: golf r
« Reply #17 on: 07 November 2009, 18:07 »


hehe - lets not start that one all over again!   :laugh:


anyway - its amazing that the Golf R with only a little more bhp than the Roc R pulls to 62 up to a second quicker.  the worth on 4wd I guess, but still thats an amazing difference.  I guess this really highlights how the 4wd rally rice rockets were able to put down 4 to 5 second 0-60 times so easily.



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Re: golf r
« Reply #18 on: 07 November 2009, 18:21 »
he he he no intention of starting that argument again. Just that the price is so steep, I would really want the price I paid for to show on the car that I paid the price for. I know that the Golfs are meant to be discrete and subdued. But then why would anyone pay so much to get a R when the GTI is meant to be just that? A GTI is likely not to evolve into a 4WD, so I wonder why create a R when demand for it will be much less so soon and with the older engines? Less also means more expensive due to the economics of it... Is it because it wants to compete with the Ford RS and the likes? 
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Re: golf r
« Reply #19 on: 07 November 2009, 21:09 »
But whats so special about 0-60 times? There meeningless imo unless you do proper drag race (should get a better car to start with) or do traffic light races (numty) or just have a small member so need to brag about such things.
Only numbers that make any sense in the real world are things like 30-70 through gears for overtaking trucks etc. I bet the scirocco R and Golf R are very close after they start rolling.
If you must know the sort of bragging numbers to expect just go buy a back issue of autoexpress and autocar when they tested the S3.
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