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Offline mds69

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Re: GTI vs GTD the eco question
« Reply #10 on: 03 November 2009, 20:20 »
Diesel engine emissions pose a far greater risk to health and the local environment in towns and cities and should be banned.
Was just reading (well, Holby City's on our TV!) :-
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_emission_standards#Emission_standards_for_passenger_cars
Crap isn't it - they let Diesel engines put out up to 3x more NOx but don't force the manufacturer to list this figure.  What's worse is that it turns out VW can meet roughly the EuroVI standards (i.e. about the same levels as Petrol engines) for the US market now whilst still charging them lower prices for the cars!


Offline mds69

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Re: GTI vs GTD the eco question
« Reply #11 on: 03 November 2009, 20:43 »
The GTI is something you would spend you own money on, the GTD is something you're happy to spend someone elses money on. In my not very humble opinion.  :lipsrsealed:

Wouldn't disagree.  Don't think a GTD would save a personal buyer much unless they're doing loads of miles and you end up with a DPF and Dual-Mass Flywheel to worry about. 

My dealer reckoned reasonable percentage of GTD sales are coming from BMW diesel 1 and 3 series.  So, maybe it needs Tailgate Assist rather than Park Assist?  :smiley:

Offline zx81

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Re: GTI vs GTD the eco question
« Reply #12 on: 03 November 2009, 22:00 »
Do a search on DEFRA, they piss away money given to them to find 'global warming evidence' (just writing that makes me cringe seeing as there isnt any)

Get what car you want, they are going to struggle to keep making out we affect the climate soon and we can go back to driving awesome cars (not remapped diesels packaged as fun hot hatches  :sick: )

I don't think I've ever read a more inaccurate and downright dishonest comment on the internet (and I visited Stormfront once, just for a laugh - it wasn't very funny).  Do you have any evidence for this assertion, or are you just making this up?  The overwhelming scientific consensus is that global warming is real and that human activity is a major cause.  Governments throughout the world agree on this.  All the UK's major political parties agree on this.  The UN agrees on this.  The Stern Report agrees on this.  Are you honestly suggesting that all these people are wrong?  All of them?  And that you are right?  Are you a climate expert?  Do you think we can continue to pollute the atmosphere with impunity, without any adverse effects?

Our days of driving awesome [sic] cars are over.  If environmental regulations don't do it for them, the increasing rarity of oil will.  (Don't tell me: you think that peak oil is a myth too and that there are infinite supplies of oil.)

As for the person who thinks that CO2 isn't an issue - perhaps you should read about acidification of the oceans and reassess your position.

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Re: GTI vs GTD the eco question
« Reply #13 on: 03 November 2009, 22:17 »
Are you honestly suggesting that all these people are wrong?  All of them?  And that you are right? 

Jules might not be, but I am. However, this forum is not for discussion on climate - start a new thread in the off topic forum and I'll gladly explain to you why what you hear in the media and from government is wrong.
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Re: GTI vs GTD the eco question
« Reply #14 on: 04 November 2009, 00:42 »


Our days of driving awesome [sic] cars are over.  If environmental regulations don't do it for them, the increasing rarity of oil will.  (Don't tell me: you think that peak oil is a myth too and that there are infinite supplies of oil.)

As for the person who thinks that CO2 isn't an issue - perhaps you should read about acidification of the oceans and reassess your position.

lol, Once Drax down the road stops pumping millions of millions of tonnes of Co2 into the atmosphere, More per minute ide say then I could ever give off due to my actions in my lifetime, Or the Chinese / indians level there Co2 immisions, I wouldn't even class myself as a fish in a very big pond, Morelike a a clump of rock the size of your mouse in the Universe. MY ACTIONS WILL NOT AFFECT THIS PLANET! Not even on a local scale. 

And as for the oil, Not in my Lifetime m8, Not in your son's lifetime, More oil then has previously pumped from the ground up to now, Is beneath the Artic, Wont be long till technology allows us to tap it. 2 much money at stake not 2. Besides that there's over 150years worth of oil still in known pockets of oil.
    My position is simple, Give a f**king sh!t.