Retrofit Dynaudio & DAB?

[AdrianM]

You must be a barrel of laughs down the pub on a Sat night.

You'd be surprised

But usually I'm at home enjoying my £20K AV system in my living room. 

Should have spent £200, wouldnt have been able to tell the diff.

Actually my digital audio stuff was bought with features, power and quality in mind; and those cost $$$. Speakers will always sound different although you don't need to spend the earth for good sounding ones - having said that, some of the best I've heard were £40K but waaaay too big for my house.

Unfortunately, a big chunk of what you hear is actually the environment the speakers are played in so there are limits on what speakers, any speakers for that matter, can accomplish when fitted into a car. It's why I didn't order the Dynaudio. Not that I think they wouldn't be better as they probably would be but I'm guessing that a back to back audition wouldn't show such a huge difference that the cost would imply. A good digital EQ system would probably help much more.

[simonpolly]

You must be a barrel of laughs down the pub on a Sat night.

You'd be surprised

But usually I'm at home enjoying my £20K AV system in my living room. 

Should have spent £200, wouldnt have been able to tell the diff.

Actually my digital audio stuff was bought with features, power and quality in mind; and those cost $$$. Speakers will always sound different although you don't need to spend the earth for good sounding ones - having said that, some of the best I've heard were £40K but waaaay too big for my house.

Unfortunately, a big chunk of what you hear is actually the environment the speakers are played in so there are limits on what speakers, any speakers for that matter, can accomplish when fitted into a car. It's why I didn't order the Dynaudio. Not that I think they wouldn't be better as they probably would be but I'm guessing that a back to back audition wouldn't show such a huge difference that the cost would imply. A good digital EQ system would probably help much more.

40k for speakers,boy you`d be pi ssed if you later found out you had poor hearing,you think they would give you a refund ?

[VWKev]

You must be a barrel of laughs down the pub on a Sat night.

You'd be surprised

But usually I'm at home enjoying my £20K AV system in my living room. 

Should have spent £200, wouldnt have been able to tell the diff.

Actually my digital audio stuff was bought with features, power and quality in mind; and those cost $$$. Speakers will always sound different although you don't need to spend the earth for good sounding ones - having said that, some of the best I've heard were £40K but waaaay too big for my house.

Unfortunately, a big chunk of what you hear is actually the environment the speakers are played in so there are limits on what speakers, any speakers for that matter, can accomplish when fitted into a car. It's why I didn't order the Dynaudio. Not that I think they wouldn't be better as they probably would be but I'm guessing that a back to back audition wouldn't show such a huge difference that the cost would imply. A good digital EQ system would probably help much more.

40k for speakers,boy you`d be pi ssed if you later found out you had poor hearing,you think they would give you a refund ?

Id 2nd that. For £400 and a blindfold he'd have just as good a sounding system.

[percymon]

Philistines - you spout on about how good dynaudio is, but none of you have bothered to listen to a decent hifi system     Sure it sounds different to the stock system, but that doesn't mean its any more an accurate representation of the original sound.

Then again, its women who have a lot better appreciation of sound and more readily notice changes. Quite often i've swapped speaker cables, interconnects or just mains cables for the girlfriend in another room to say my hifi sounds different.

Suppose its the age of the ipod - massively compressed music played through piddly headphones - hifi nirvana these days 

[mac7]

Philistines - you spout on about how good dynaudio is, but none of you have bothered to listen to a decent hifi system 

How do you know this?

[avalon]

Philistines - you spout on about how good dynaudio is, but none of you have bothered to listen to a decent hifi system     Sure it sounds different to the stock system, but that doesn't mean its any more an accurate representation of the original sound.

Then again, its women who have a lot better appreciation of sound and more readily notice changes. Quite often i've swapped speaker cables, interconnects or just mains cables for the girlfriend in another room to say my hifi sounds different.

Suppose its the age of the ipod - massively compressed music played through piddly headphones - hifi nirvana these days 

An analogy could be wine or .... women [!]; the beauty [or sound] is in the eye [or ear]?? of the beholder.


Ava [who wouldn't know a £100 bottle of wine from one costing 10% as much]

[VWKev]

Philistines - you spout on about how good dynaudio is, but none of you have bothered to listen to a decent hifi system     Sure it sounds different to the stock system, but that doesn't mean its any more an accurate representation of the original sound.

Then again, its women who have a lot better appreciation of sound and more readily notice changes. Quite often i've swapped speaker cables, interconnects or just mains cables for the girlfriend in another room to say my hifi sounds different.

Suppose its the age of the ipod - massively compressed music played through piddly headphones - hifi nirvana these days 

Rolfe, please let me call him a tw@t, please ? If you think its a bad Idea then let me know and I wont.

[Rolfe]

^ You're on your own there!  Anyway, he just said women are superior, do you really expect me to disagree?   

It could be a bad encoding but most probably she had better speakers and/or better acoustics in her car.

FWIW, audio memory is fickle and if you are lucky, subtle differences will be retained for 5 seconds or so and after that any comparison you make will be more or less pointless. Larger differences will be retained for longer but not as much as you'd think. But even how you've slept or your mood can have a big influence on how you perceive a sound so unless you are comparing one system with another side-by-side, the comparison is pretty much pointless anyway.

I could borrow the CD back and try it.

It's a piece of music we're performing next weekend with our choir, and so several of us have it on continuously in our cars.  I got into hers on Sunday night to go to choir practice, wasn't thinking about it, but I immediately thought it sounded better in her car.  I didn't take any note of make or model of car!  I wasn't trying to compare, it was an unsolicited opinion delivered by my auditory cortex.

Rolfe.

[AdrianM]

Philistines - you spout on about how good dynaudio is, but none of you have bothered to listen to a decent hifi system   

I think the most expensive stereo system I've listened to had a price tag of almost £200,000. It was all way overpriced of course but those JBL Everest speakers were awesome.

Then again, its women who have a lot better appreciation of sound and more readily notice changes. Quite often i've swapped speaker cables, interconnects or just mains cables for the girlfriend in another room to say my hifi sounds different.

Actually, unless a speaker cable or interconnect is badly designed it will sound just the same as any other. Expensive esoteric audio cables that are marketed at the technically ignorant and gullible are another unfortunate sign of the "age of the ipod". And FWIW, lossless iPod audio will sound as good as audio from just about any other hardware - assuming you have it playing on good IEM instead of those standard iPod buds.

[gossa]

Philistines - you spout on about how good dynaudio is, but none of you have bothered to listen to a decent hifi system   

I think the most expensive stereo system I've listened to had a price tag of almost £200,000. It was all way overpriced of course but those JBL Everest speakers were awesome.

Then again, its women who have a lot better appreciation of sound and more readily notice changes. Quite often i've swapped speaker cables, interconnects or just mains cables for the girlfriend in another room to say my hifi sounds different.

Actually, unless a speaker cable or interconnect is badly designed it will sound just the same as any other. Expensive esoteric audio cables that are marketed at the technically ignorant and gullible are another unfortunate sign of the "age of the ipod". And FWIW, lossless iPod audio will sound as good as audio from just about any other hardware - assuming you have it playing on good IEM instead of those standard iPod buds.

ah, contentious issue cheap verses high end cables!