tsr pack A???

[Paul86S2]

the std 8v 020 fly is lighter than a worked 16v 02a fly    a lightened 020 fly is silly light!  will make a big difference boys!

before the engine work, id treat the old boat to some roll bars and poly bushes. rod ends and ball joints. top mount bearings too. i upgraded to the late mk3/vr separate bearing top mounts. there awesome!

will be awesome then!  dont listen to the polybush haters either!

Yes you're right an 020 lightened flywheel will be lighter (smaller dia) but as far as I know you can't fit the 16v clutch to an 020 flywheel.

Paul

[paultownsend]

your right, they cant be swopped over. my 8v 'hotgolf' fly went on a major diet. its such a good mod. it went from 4.9kg to 3.1kg

[Paul86S2]

your right, they cant be swopped over. my 8v 'hotgolf' fly went on a major diet. its such a good mod. it went from 4.9kg to 3.1kg

My 16v "hotgolf" flywheel has gone from 9.5kgs to about 5.5kgs. I'll weigh it when it arrives.

Paul

[Ess_Three]

No way on this earth would I spend £2k on making a mk3 quicker, I would sell and buy something quicker.

Horses for courses...
I have my Mk3 I've spent a fortune on...and wanted something faster so bought an S3, then a 911. Got bored 5 years later...and sold it.
Still got the Mk3 though...
Still NA...
Never fitting a 1.8T heap...
...and I'll still keep spending money, time and effort in the Mk3. Sometimes the pleasure of doing it outweighs the easy option of buying something faster, no?

[Ess_Three]

its the head that makes ess_threes power. i bet thats a good £750 head.

Try double that.
That'll be nearer the mark, especially when you add in the Ti retainers, new valves, valve seals, springs, lightweight lifters, etc.

can i ask what suspension setup your using? how quick a car is isnt always about the engine

Exactly...you'll be quicker A to B with a standard engine and a sorted chassis.
Power is nothing without control, and all that.

[Ess_Three]

16v's will always flow better in a head than 8 large valves, why else would car manufactures make them?

Are people forgetting that it's not just the amount of air/fuel you get in that makes power...it's how well it mixes and how complete the combustion.
16vs mix better and burn better for the same air/fuel (in general) hence more power...they also flow more...so even more power potential, whilst being more efficient (using less fuel) and giving better emissions.

[justalex81]

so who do i get to sort my head (which will have moody cams in it) and what management do i need to run and what's it all gonna cost!!! 

[paultownsend]

thats an expensive head. but after speaking to some proper engineers, im not supprised. the man hours going into it i suppose.£750 is my limit. then some arp bolts while im there.may as well 
how much would be gained ess_three, from bottom end work? based around, say, a eurospec crank? would it make the engine spin up much quicker?

without going into fored induction. itb's, tb's or carbs. what can be the absolute DRIVABLE power limit from an abf? is it the tb and inlet that restrict?
say, a fully blended head, in/ex tract. 260-268 cams. stanalone management, and a lightened/worked bottom end to handle the extra revs?

mike_h had a 2.1 hotgolf abf bottom end for sale which i missed out on. shame 

[harlemex]

No way on this earth would I spend £2k on making a mk3 quicker, I would sell and buy something quicker.

Horses for courses...
I have my Mk3 I've spent a fortune on...and wanted something faster so bought an S3, then a 911. Got bored 5 years later...and sold it.
Still got the Mk3 though...
Still NA...
Never fitting a 1.8T heap...
...and I'll still keep spending money, time and effort in the Mk3. Sometimes the pleasure of doing it outweighs the easy option of buying something faster, no?

This is fine if you have bags of money, sh!t loads of tools and a massive garage with ramp etc.. not to mention another car while your mk3 is in the shop. If your like me and find yourself doing most of your own maintenance takes enough time then you have to agree with wayne on this. Sell your mk3 for a grand, then you have three grand. Go and buy yourself a mark four 1.8 turbo in black, save a little more money and buy a better turbo for it, job done .

[VeeDubGTI16v]

it depends what you want really, noones gonna agree on this. if you really want something and cant afford it, save up untill you can.

its not really an upgrade getting a mk4 now is it. the attractiveness of the abf is how it makes power, throttle response etc. these turbo motors with more torque than hp go really well, but dont exactly feel exciting