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Offline mr magoo

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1st Gear - DSG 'lurch'
« on: 20 October 2009, 21:32 »
Hi All

Long time no speak - what have I missed  :rolleyes:.

Anyways - got an Ed30 with a DSG box. There's quite a 'lurch' from the box if I go from having the footbrake engaged to even just tickling the gas.

Only solution is to pause for 1/2 - 1 sec from taking my foot off the brake which rather defeats the object of having a GTI I feel  :smiley:.

Doesn't seem as much an issue when using the handbrake.

And no - before anyone asks, this isn't in S mode.

Any ideas anyone?

Thanks

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Offline JonnyG

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Re: 1st Gear - DSG 'lurch'
« Reply #1 on: 20 October 2009, 22:19 »
Sounds like you have one of the faulty Mechatronic units ... how old is your car ?

Mine is getting replaced next week ... same fault as yours by the sound of it.

More info here :-

http://www.r32oc.com/general-chat/14610-mkv-dsg-mechatronic.html

There's been a full VW press release in America for this fault

http://media.vw.com/index.php?s=43&item=491

Quote :-

Some customers have reported transmission performance issues under certain driving conditions. This was due to a faulty component inside the Mechatronic unit within a limited production range.

.... affects a limited number of model years 2007-2009 Volkswagens and Audis. Covered models are the Volkswagen R32, Jetta, Jetta SportWagen, GTI, Eos, as well as Audi A3 and TT.
« Last Edit: 20 October 2009, 22:26 by JonnyG »
Current : Seat Cupra Lux, DSG, Magnetic Grey, Sept 2019
Gone :    Golf Mk 7 R, 5dr DSG, Pure White, March 2017
Gone :    Golf Mk 7 R, 5dr DSG, Tornado Red, March 2015
Gone :    Audi RS3, Daytona Grey, 7sp S-Tronic, Sept 2012
Gone :    Golf R, Rising Blue, 5dr DSG Mar 2010
Gone :    Golf R32, DBP, 5dr, DSG, Nov 2008
Gone :    Golf GTi ED30, Mar 2007

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Re: 1st Gear - DSG 'lurch'
« Reply #2 on: 21 October 2009, 10:47 »
I have a 2008 GTI, and I seemto hav ethe same. I may take mine in to have it looked at as well......

Is it a big job??

Will the car need to be taken on the typical '50 mile heavy footed' test drives??
« Last Edit: 21 October 2009, 10:50 by ifti »

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Re: 1st Gear - DSG 'lurch'
« Reply #3 on: 21 October 2009, 12:11 »
i have an 06 gti and when i slow down @ a roundabout or junction then press slightly on the accelerator nothing happens, il leave my foot in the same position then all of a sudden it will fly off, not sure if this is my driving or a problem with the car...

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Re: 1st Gear - DSG 'lurch'
« Reply #4 on: 21 October 2009, 21:24 »
I have a 2008 GTI, and I seemto hav ethe same. I may take mine in to have it looked at as well......

Is it a big job??

Will the car need to be taken on the typical '50 mile heavy footed' test drives??

Not that big a job, but quite expensive out of warranty.

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Well I wondered about the test drive when I complained about mine at it's 1st service, particularly as the fault really only shows up when the gearbox is hot and I'm in stop start traffic.  In the end I wrote a letter explaining all the symptoms and asked them to confirm with VW whether my Mechatronics unit was one of the faulty batches.  I handed them the letter when dropping the car off in the mornng.  Car came back from the service with no extra mileage .. so no long test drive ... and confirmation that it needed replacing    :smiley:
Current : Seat Cupra Lux, DSG, Magnetic Grey, Sept 2019
Gone :    Golf Mk 7 R, 5dr DSG, Pure White, March 2017
Gone :    Golf Mk 7 R, 5dr DSG, Tornado Red, March 2015
Gone :    Audi RS3, Daytona Grey, 7sp S-Tronic, Sept 2012
Gone :    Golf R, Rising Blue, 5dr DSG Mar 2010
Gone :    Golf R32, DBP, 5dr, DSG, Nov 2008
Gone :    Golf GTi ED30, Mar 2007

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Re: 1st Gear - DSG 'lurch'
« Reply #5 on: 21 October 2009, 21:33 »
Sounds like you have one of the faulty Mechatronic units ... how old is your car ?

Mine is getting replaced next week ... same fault as yours by the sound of it.

More info here :-

http://www.r32oc.com/general-chat/14610-mkv-dsg-mechatronic.html

There's been a full VW press release in America for this fault

http://media.vw.com/index.php?s=43&item=491

Quote :-

Some customers have reported transmission performance issues under certain driving conditions. This was due to a faulty component inside the Mechatronic unit within a limited production range.

.... affects a limited number of model years 2007-2009 Volkswagens and Audis. Covered models are the Volkswagen R32, Jetta, Jetta SportWagen, GTI, Eos, as well as Audi A3 and TT.

Thanks for this. It's on an 08 plate (April 08) with abot 32k on the clock. Booked in tomorrow at the stealers. Receptioniost had neveer heard of the problem which is a bit worrying lol

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Re: 1st Gear - DSG 'lurch'
« Reply #6 on: 21 October 2009, 21:34 »
i have an 06 gti and when i slow down @ a roundabout or junction then press slightly on the accelerator nothing happens, il leave my foot in the same position then all of a sudden it will fly off, not sure if this is my driving or a problem with the car...

That sounds more typical of the DSG having a slight delay in changing gear.  

The symptoms of the mechatronics fault are at their worst when the gearbox is hot and you're setting off in 1st or Reverse up an incline.  

There is also occasionally a very long delay in engaging 1st gear, and then a slightly alarming bang from the gearbox, as 1st gear is finally engaged.  
Current : Seat Cupra Lux, DSG, Magnetic Grey, Sept 2019
Gone :    Golf Mk 7 R, 5dr DSG, Pure White, March 2017
Gone :    Golf Mk 7 R, 5dr DSG, Tornado Red, March 2015
Gone :    Audi RS3, Daytona Grey, 7sp S-Tronic, Sept 2012
Gone :    Golf R, Rising Blue, 5dr DSG Mar 2010
Gone :    Golf R32, DBP, 5dr, DSG, Nov 2008
Gone :    Golf GTi ED30, Mar 2007

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Re: 1st Gear - DSG 'lurch'
« Reply #7 on: 21 October 2009, 21:38 »
Thanks for this. It's on an 08 plate (April 08) with abot 32k on the clock. Booked in tomorrow at the stealers. Receptioniost had neveer heard of the problem which is a bit worrying lol

LOL  ... well they were well aware of the problem at my dealer.

Print off the American press release in the link above and take it with you  :smiley:

I'll PM you the letter I wrote too, if you want to put it in writing to the service manager.
Current : Seat Cupra Lux, DSG, Magnetic Grey, Sept 2019
Gone :    Golf Mk 7 R, 5dr DSG, Pure White, March 2017
Gone :    Golf Mk 7 R, 5dr DSG, Tornado Red, March 2015
Gone :    Audi RS3, Daytona Grey, 7sp S-Tronic, Sept 2012
Gone :    Golf R, Rising Blue, 5dr DSG Mar 2010
Gone :    Golf R32, DBP, 5dr, DSG, Nov 2008
Gone :    Golf GTi ED30, Mar 2007

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Re: 1st Gear - DSG 'lurch'
« Reply #8 on: 21 October 2009, 21:40 »
Thanks for this. It's on an 08 plate (April 08) with abot 32k on the clock. Booked in tomorrow at the stealers. Receptioniost had neveer heard of the problem which is a bit worrying lol

LOL  ... well they were well aware of the problem at my dealer.

Print off the American press release in the link above and take it with you  :smiley:

I'll PM you the letter I wrote too, if you want to put it in writing to the service manager.
Cheers - if you would that would be great. I'll see how it goes tomorrow before winding them up tho!

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Re: 1st Gear - DSG 'lurch'
« Reply #9 on: 21 October 2009, 21:55 »
[Cheers - if you would that would be great. I'll see how it goes tomorrow before winding them up tho!

PM sent with text

The letter was mainly to convey all the problems I was experiencing straight to the technician / mechanic  (rather than 3rd hand via the receptionist :grin:)

Also to let them know that I was well aware there was a faulty batch of mechatronic units  :wink: 
Current : Seat Cupra Lux, DSG, Magnetic Grey, Sept 2019
Gone :    Golf Mk 7 R, 5dr DSG, Pure White, March 2017
Gone :    Golf Mk 7 R, 5dr DSG, Tornado Red, March 2015
Gone :    Audi RS3, Daytona Grey, 7sp S-Tronic, Sept 2012
Gone :    Golf R, Rising Blue, 5dr DSG Mar 2010
Gone :    Golf R32, DBP, 5dr, DSG, Nov 2008
Gone :    Golf GTi ED30, Mar 2007