Which other cars did you consider before buying the Mk6?

[Snoopy]

I understand what your saying.... but your missing out the most important factor, which is the fact that your driving a better car, and therefore have to pay for a better car before you lose less percentage of what you paid for.

Maybe but everyones views of better is different.
As an example back in late 90s we bought a Ibiza GTI16V over a mk3 Golf GTI because i thought it a better car. We then bought a mk1 SEAT Leon over a mk4 Golf for the same reason i thought it had a better handling/ride compromise and decent quality. As a long term VW owner/GTI owner the Golf owners all shouted 'residuels' at me as SEATs were real bad back then (in the 30% area) we actually lost less in pound notes terms than if i had bought the so called superior % value residual golfs because the SEATs were cheaper and far cheaper after discounts were took into account they saved me thousands in depreciation over the equivelent golfs in money lost after 3 years.

Its easy to work out sit down with the residual % value of a rival and the golf. Work out 3rd year 'trade' value. Subtract it from the original list price cost (best if you can find the discount value people are really paying for real new cost). Giving you pound notes lost value. ie what it will cost in depreciation. These will look far different to misleading % values.

% residuals is not a reason to buy a golf over its rivals if anything its a reason to not buy it as it will more than likley cost you more in pound notes terms than its rivals.

Its amazing how many people get brainwashed by this % residual BS. When some simple maths will show you a better idea of what looses you actually more money.

Simple maths will show what im on about so i don't see any reason to explain it further.  back on topic time. I will shut up now.

[Rolfe]

I was considering a Focus ST (this was sometime last year) When I phoned the Ford dealer to try arranging a test drive, in so many words I was told I would need be already ready to buy the car instead of just wasting their time and fuel. I told him I was considering the GTI and he recommended me to go test the GTI then come back and when I was ready for the ST.

That's not so different to what happened to me.  I was looking at the ST online, and I snuck off one lunchtime to the nearest Ford dealer for a look.

They didn't have an ST in the showroom.  They couldn't book me a test drive in one.  Best of all, they didn't have a brochure for one.  This, apparently, because it was the car everyone wanted.

So I got back in my Peugeot, drove to the nearest VW dealer, where they had a Golf GTi in the showroom, handed me a brochure almost before I asked, apologised for not being able to give me a test drive then and there (which I hadn't asked for) and booked me in for Saturday.

The Ford dealer emailed me, and I suggested he get in touch when he could arrange a test drive for me.  I also suggested he might hurry up, before I just bought a Golf.  I haven't heard from him again.

Rolfe.

[Egbutt Wash]

I understand what your saying.... but your missing out the most important factor, which is the fact that your driving a better car, and therefore have to pay for a better car before you lose less percentage of what you paid for.

Maybe but everyones views of better is different.
As an example back in late 90s we bought a Ibiza GTI16V over a mk3 Golf GTI because i thought it a better car. We then bought a mk1 SEAT Leon over a mk4 Golf for the same reason i thought it had a better handling/ride compromise and decent quality. As a long term VW owner/GTI owner the Golf owners all shouted 'residuels' at me as SEATs were real bad back then (in the 30% area) we actually lost less in pound notes terms than if i had bought the so called superior % value residual golfs because the SEATs were cheaper and far cheaper after discounts were took into account they saved me thousands in depreciation over the equivelent golfs in money lost after 3 years.

Its easy to work out sit down with the residual % value of a rival and the golf. Work out 3rd year 'trade' value. Subtract it from the original list price cost (best if you can find the discount value people are really paying for real new cost). Giving you pound notes lost value. ie what it will cost in depreciation. These will look far different to misleading % values.

% residuals is not a reason to buy a golf over its rivals if anything its a reason to not buy it as it will more than likley cost you more in pound notes terms than its rivals.

Its amazing how many people get brainwashed by this % residual BS. When some simple maths will show you a better idea of what looses you actually more money.

Simple maths will show what im on about so i don't see any reason to explain it further.  back on topic time. I will shut up now.

I often rent the SEAT Golf sized car in Spain.
I hate it.  Nasty sharp plastics on everything, even the window switches.
My favorite rent car is the Ford Focus, I would not own one but they are very good cars.

[mac7]

I'm waiting on the Golf R but I'm also considering an Audi S4 quattro Avant. If I have the Golf I will have to keep the Passat as the family runabout. Problem with the Audi though is it looks the same as all those reps/c*cks in their s-line TDI's.

But residuals meen NOTHING its a percent value it meens NOTHING.

Of course it means something - you just used it very effectively to show the difference in depreciation between a GTI and an Ibiza...   

[DDRFan]

So I got back in my Peugeot, drove to the nearest VW dealer, where they had a Golf GTi in the showroom, handed me a brochure almost before I asked, apologised for not being able to give me a test drive then and there (which I hadn't asked for) and booked me in for Saturday.

That's kind of similar to what happened when i phoned up my local VW - the dude invited me down and let me test drive a sweet Mk5 with DSG without even taking my personal details! this kind of got me puzzled as to his openness as i could have quite easily been a bored chav looking for some cheap thrills on a Saturday afternoon. I even brought some mates with me to sit in the back.   in the end i didn't buy one, thus sort of wasted his time and effort. however i'd like to think i've redeemed myself by going back over a year later. I'm amazed the same guy is working there (presumably he must be doing well since the stealer still employs him) and as some of you know i've ordered an Mk6 through him..... i do think he's a bit more conservative now compared to when i first met him - he's not going to give test drives to any old loser.

[denyason]

Guys I think Im going to buy a 135i coupe M sport. Making my decision on monday. The reason the mk6 is at the back of my mind is lack of discount with VW. The 135 comes in at 32k with my options. Thats 4k more than my spec'd up mk6. However BMW are more than happy to drop about 5k. Its unreal! VW will take a grand off max. I also went back to Audi for the S3, that was coming in at 28k with discount too. I Love the GTI but VW what are you playing at! 

I will post my decision on Monday 

you fool! 32 grnad for a 1 series coupe.  32 grand can get the latest a5 cabriolet.  bmw 3 series cabriolet.  the e-class coupe.  you're paying over the odds for essentially a very awful car with awful reviews.  and its dated.   i would go for the a5 cabriolet.  absolute gem- i hate the a4 cabriolet a couple ofyrs ago.  residuals are top notch and classy car.  the bmw 1 series is pants.  another good one is the 3.2 audi tt or the tts at 33 grand..  (272 bhp)   32 grand could get a porsche cayman s  second hand from porsche is like a new car.

have you considered a

[mac7]

i would go for the a5 cabriolet.

You tart 

[denyason]

i would go for the a5 cabriolet.

You tart 

its a good car.  nowt wrong with it.  not going to appeal to chav's but ppl with some class.  yep its a posers car but its only an ideal.   the one sthat say the residuals dont matter from brand to brand are so wrong.  its not word of mouth, th efacts are their to see.  if you ccheck second hand and work it out, they dont depreciate much.  on the other hand a 3 yr old ford st would drop significantly.  i persoanlly would get the tts over a 1 series 135.  its baby r8 essentailly.  the folks saying its a girls car have failed to acknowledge the fact the old tt is not the new tt.  and they haven't checked the reviews on "what car".  or the fact that they have never driven one.  my mate drove a tts and a r8 on them day event gifts and he said the tts is better than the r8 at silverstone.  i ahve the tt.  the ride is awesome,  girls car.  not achance!   defo nnot for chav's!

i garantee most gti owners are chav's with money.   this si probably their dream car.  my dream car is a 911.  or a r8.

[mac7]

i garantee most gti owners are chav's with money.

You chav 

[DWGTI]

you fool! 32 grnad for a 1 series coupe.  32 grand can get the latest a5 cabriolet.  bmw 3 series cabriolet.  the e-class coupe.  you're paying over the odds for essentially a very awful car with awful reviews.  and its dated.   i would go for the a5 cabriolet.  absolute gem- i hate the a4 cabriolet a couple ofyrs ago.  residuals are top notch and classy car.  the bmw 1 series is pants.  another good one is the 3.2 audi tt or the tts at 33 grand..  (272 bhp)   32 grand could get a porsche cayman s  second hand from porsche is like a new car.

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Dude I am not paying 32k thats the point. Its not dated, and the reviews are all 5star. You maybe thinking of the 1 series hatchback. Im looking at the coupe. 1/4mile quicker than a new M3. 306bhp. It beats a caymen s hands down. Lol be serious an A5!! Not the same class. Check out fifthgears review on you tube, infact just type BMW 135i then you'll get the point.