What is my BHP likely to be for a Mk3 2.0 16v Gti M Reg

[AudiA8Quattro]

It matches my mates standard Low mileage VR6. Would happily meet you halfway if I was still insured to drive it.

If it matches the vr then the vr isn't running right.
Anyway everyone on here reckons cars lose bhp with age?

[Dec]

It matches my mates standard Low mileage VR6. Would happily meet you halfway if I was still insured to drive it.

If it matches the vr then the vr isn't running right.
Anyway everyone on here reckons cars lose bhp with age?

Ok if you say so... 

[DazVR6]

It matches my mates standard Low mileage VR6. Would happily meet you halfway if I was still insured to drive it.

If it matches the vr then the vr isn't running right.
Anyway everyone on here reckons cars lose bhp with age?

my Vr made 173 bhp at the wheels (191.4 at the fly) and similar torque and my old valver woudn't have come close although was still fast for what it was....maybe it was that blitschip i fitted...

[Matty-MK3]

I'm in two minds about loosing BHP with age.

I mean the pistons and rings etc. wear away slightly allowing for faster movement but then you also loose a bit of compression.

So no idea.

[Mikester]

It matches my mates standard Low mileage VR6. Would happily meet you halfway if I was still insured to drive it.

If it matches the vr then the vr isn't running right.
Anyway everyone on here reckons cars lose bhp with age?

Ok if you say so... 

Laurances VR was fooked, all the sensors were gone anyways dec hence why its off the road now. lol.

Your 16v didnt make as much power as the other Vr's that ran haha

And that rolling road was made before the dinosaurs and prints onto slate.

Would be better off rolling roading the cars on a rollete wheel. lol

But that said, decs 16v did make good power.

And who cares.....

[Ess_Three]

my Vr made 173 bhp at the wheels (191.4 at the fly) and similar torque and my old valver woudn't have come close although was still fast for what it was....maybe it was that blitschip i fitted...

An 18.4 BHP loss through your gearbox?
Can I have it?

No chance...those figures don't add up. My O2A looses 40-45 BHP through the drivetrain, on an engine making 190+ BHP.

[bored_Welsh_lad]

An 18.4 BHP loss through your gearbox?
Can I have it?

No chance...those figures don't add up. My O2A looses 40-45 BHP through the drivetrain, on an engine making 190+ BHP.

This man talks sense!!!

[DazVR6]

my Vr made 173 bhp at the wheels (191.4 at the fly) and similar torque and my old valver woudn't have come close although was still fast for what it was....maybe it was that blitschip i fitted...

An 18.4 BHP loss through your gearbox?
Can I have it?

No chance...those figures don't add up. My O2A looses 40-45 BHP through the drivetrain, on an engine making 190+ BHP.

Well im only going by what the graph says, was done at the rolling road day at Awesome gti in april 08, maybe im misreading the graph, anyone check it out and let me know.??

http://www.awesome-gti.co.uk/rollingroad/rr.gti_050408.html

Mine is the Vr at the bottom of the page, even a video to!

[babyvw]

ive heard cars lose bhp over the years but then it all depends on the the conditions the engine was made it and how well its been looked after over the yrs. just out of intrest whats the stanard power for the 8v and the 16v bhp and torque if any one knows!?

[Ess_Three]

Well im only going by what the graph says, was done at the rolling road day at Awesome gti in april 08, maybe im misreading the graph, anyone check it out and let me know.??

http://www.awesome-gti.co.uk/rollingroad/rr.gti_050408.html

Mine is the Vr at the bottom of the page, even a video to!

Ahh...Awesome's Dyno...that explains a lot.
Lottery numbers I'm afraid...both on power and power at the wheels.

A Mk3 O2A will loose at least 30 BHP even on an optimistic Dyno...I loose 40-45 easily on every Dyno I've ever used (MAHA, Dyno Dynamics, Sun)

You are reading the graph correctly...but the read-outs are pointless except to see who's numbers are biggest on the day.

Where are the measured variables? Ambient temperature? Barometric Pressure?
Where are the coastdown losses?

You have a chart with good numbers...but totally uncomparable to any other dyno sadly.

A good 2.8 VR6 (slightly tweaked) will make 180-190 BHP with about 150-155 ATW, in my experience, on a reliable dyno.

My car made 151 BHP standard...Lupo GTI made 125 BHP standard, S3 208 BHP standard...my GTI now makes 196 BHP on the same dyno, with about 150 BHP of it actually at the wheels.