Author Topic: JonL's 8v budget track toy - now going to be a race car! ;-)  (Read 55287 times)

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Re: New Member and another 8v budget track toy project
« Reply #70 on: 09 October 2009, 10:57 »
Blimey in that case I think the electric ones will be much less hassle and probably cheaper even if you buy two.

As for your leaks I feel your pain, mine leaks like a sieve, sunroof is the worst culprit but that's coming out over the winter and being replaced with a sheet of ali and lots of tiger seal!

What are you stripping off the passat?

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Re: New Member and another 8v budget track toy project
« Reply #71 on: 09 October 2009, 11:45 »
I am going to take the entire front suspension and drivetrain.  It will give me a wide track conversion and bigger brakes all in one.

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Re: New Member and another 8v budget track toy project
« Reply #72 on: 09 October 2009, 11:52 »
My brains not working well today and I'm trying to thing what bits you're actually removing.

Wishbones
Complete hubs and brakes
Driveshafts
Steering rack arm?

Not sure on the steering rack arms but the hardest thing of that lot will be the wishbones, they can be a pain (I have a damaged one I can't get off my corrado and it's had to stay where it is). Depending on your budget you can pick up a pair of new wishbones complete with bushes and ball joints for about £90.

Hubs, brakes and driveshafts should all come off in about an hour or two depeneding on how rusty some of the bolts are. I can well recomend a couple of cans of "Shock and Unlock" from halfords to help with stuck bolts.

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Re: New Member and another 8v budget track toy project
« Reply #73 on: 09 October 2009, 12:08 »
That looks about right.

Wishbones, hubs, brakes, steering track arms, driveshafts, and anything else i see when i am underneath!  I will also have a look at the rear beam as if that fits and gives the same offset then I will try and take that at the same time.

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Re: New Member and another 8v budget track toy project
« Reply #74 on: 11 October 2009, 20:16 »
Got there about 15:30 hrs and left again just after 19:00 hrs, so not too bad.  I now have the shocks and springs, hubs, callipers and discs, drive shafts, ARB and wishbones from the Passat.  The hubs and callipers bolt together so I was a little disappointed as I hoped that I would get the carrier type from the conversion.  The discs looked bigger than mine, as did the callipers, so I have just measured them as I put them in the garage and the discs are about 256mm in diameter so they are bigger.  They do bolt directly onto the hub though but the Passat must have been a different design.  I will post some pictures when I get into he garage to start cleaning the parts up.  I also checked the Passat tyres and they were 195/65 14's so both of my wheel sets will fit.

A quick question whilst I think about it, I will be fitting braided hoses when I do the upgrade but will I need longer Passat ones or will the standard Golf items do? 

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Re: New Member and another 8v budget track toy project
« Reply #75 on: 13 October 2009, 08:51 »
Well by the time I got back from my eldest’s Brownie Promise and got the youngest in bed it was too dark and too cold to get anything done on the car, working outside in the winter is not a clever Idea, so I decided to go into the garage and strip down one of the Passat hubs.  The calliper nuts were very tight, obviously, but eventually gave in to a little bit of "persuasion” and separated from the hub.  I then stripped the disc off and it is 256mm in diameter so I am very happy that I have my bigger brakes.  The calliper looks bigger as well but I will have to wait until I get a pad from somewhere else to confirm this.  I could not get the track rod off the hub nor, somewhat surprisingly, could I get the lower wishbone ball joint out!  I was expecting the track rod arm to be tight but the ball joint should just tap out on the shaft!  Still I will renew both when I rebuild the hub so I am not too worried. 

My plan is to strip the entire suspension completely back to individual parts, clean and possibly powder coat, and then renew all the bearings and fit poly bushes where necessary before fitting to the Golf in one go.  It makes sense to me to do it once properly and know that my suspension is completely new so that I can then go onto another part of the car safe in the knowledge that this will be ok for a long time.  The wheel bearings, for example, seem good but are probably 133,000 miles old, the mileage on the Passat, so might fail at any time and although it is more expensive to change everything even if it doesn’t need it I think it is money well spent to prevent having to strip everything down later to renew something I could do easily now.

I did take some photos but need to upload them from my camera to the web sometime today.  I will add them to this post as soon as I have done so.  Does anyone know how expensive it is to powder coat small items such as hubs and wishbones?  I think that I have a bead on someone who will shot blast small items reasonably but need an idea of the costs involved with powder coating.  Everything I read says that it is the way to go as it provides a very tough and durable finish over painting or galvanising etc. 

Anyone got any thoughts?

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Re: New Member and another 8v budget track toy project
« Reply #76 on: 13 October 2009, 09:38 »
It cost me about £100 to shot blast and powdercoat the complete rear subframe and hub assemblies of my Golf Syncro.  Yours should be a bit cheaper, as it's less stuff.

Don't go thinking polybush is the best solution - there are stiffer OEM parts out there that will fit and probably do the job better.

Braided hoses - you should get late 16V hoses.
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Re: New Member and another 8v budget track toy project
« Reply #77 on: 13 October 2009, 09:44 »
Don't go thinking polybush is the best solution - there are stiffer OEM parts out there that will fit and probably do the job better.

are you on about your tt bushes again? do you have any data to back that up?

as far as im concerned the hierarchy goes rubber bushes<poly bushes<rose joints

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Re: New Member and another 8v budget track toy project
« Reply #78 on: 14 October 2009, 12:38 »
Its good to see her coming on well :D. By the way im the illusive jamie jon speaks about in much distress after my wripping out of the heater matrix :P hehe..    Good to see you doing well with it jon. Am already starting to miss it big time :( and thinking hmm may have to save the pennys and buy another mk2 lol !..

Whos along to no rice tonight ??? i shall be there if i can be arsed to clean my redicoulously dirty (Black )  :undecided: leon
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Re: New Member and another 8v budget track toy project
« Reply #79 on: 14 October 2009, 19:29 »
are you on about your tt bushes again? do you have any data to back that up?

I've got the data from my hands, when comparing the two.

That's better than the pub knowledge I suspect you're touting, organ-grinder-boy.
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