Tyres

[Teutonic_Tamer]

I too have also heard only good things about the Michelin Pilot Sport PS2.

They are a seriously good tyre.  I'm just amazed on how many peeps seem to ignore the fact that Porsche factory fit them - if there were a better tyre than the PS2, then Porsche would fit them.  The PS2s are also standard fitment on many of those crazy 'Renault Sport Renault Megane Sport . . . whatever they are called' hot hatches.  F0rd a also fit them as standard on their ST and RS models, and Merc also fit them (though Merc don't seem to have any consistency).

PS2 FTW any day!

[Steve_PD]

I got PS on mine and they are very good but its the price which puts most people off

[Rhyso]

I too have also heard only good things about the Michelin Pilot Sport PS2.

They are a seriously good tyre.  I'm just amazed on how many peeps seem to ignore the fact that Porsche factory fit them - if there were a better tyre than the PS2, then Porsche would fit them.  The PS2s are also standard fitment on many of those crazy 'Renault Sport Renault Megane Sport . . . whatever they are called' hot hatches.  F0rd a also fit them as standard on their ST and RS models, and Merc also fit them (though Merc don't seem to have any consistency).

PS2 FTW any day!

whilst I'm not denying how good a tyre they are, the cars you've quoted run special compounds of the Pilot Sport do they not?  and designed specifically for that particular model?

Also another stumbling block is the sheer price of the damn things 

[Teutonic_Tamer]

I too have also heard only good things about the Michelin Pilot Sport PS2.

They are a seriously good tyre.  I'm just amazed on how many peeps seem to ignore the fact that Porsche factory fit them - if there were a better tyre than the PS2, then Porsche would fit them.  The PS2s are also standard fitment on many of those crazy 'Renault Sport Renault Megane Sport . . . whatever they are called' hot hatches.  F0rd a also fit them as standard on their ST and RS models, and Merc also fit them (though Merc don't seem to have any consistency).

PS2 FTW any day!

whilst I'm not denying how good a tyre they are, the cars you've quoted run special compounds of the Pilot Sport do they not?  and designed specifically for that particular model?

OK, the Porsche GT3 uses the semi-slick Pilot Sport Cup tyres, but ALL other Porsches use the bog standard PS2s which you can get from your local ATS or ThikFit.  On BMWs, only the lightweight M3 CSL had the Cups, all their other cars, including the 'standard' M3/M5/M6 all use the standard PS2.  F0rds, Audis, Mercs again all use the standard PS2.

Regarding the Reno, I think the Megane with the standard roll cage (and lurid paint scheme) use the semi-slick Cups, but the more normal Sport Megane (225 I think), along with most other cars in the Reno range use the standard PS2s.

I suppose the only real odd-ball is the Veyron - it uses the standard PS2, but also uses the Michelin PAX system insert.

Also another stumbling block is the sheer price of the damn things 

I don't deny that Michelins are always more expensive than other 'similar' quality tyres, but if you do some research like using all the internet sites, and then fone around a dozen of your local tyre specialists, you can invariably get the price much lower.  When I last got a pair of 235 PS2s for the GTI, the highest price was £260 for one, but I eventually got them down to (I think) £140 each - all in.  Don't forget that as well as Michelins generally gripping better than others, they are also generally quieter, more comfortable, and last longer too.

[percymon]

but ALL other Porsches use the bog standard PS2s which you can get from your local ATS or ThikFit. 

Porsche use their own approval system above and beyond the normal Z/W/Y rating system - thats why some Michelin tyres sport additional sidewall lettering or the N rating from Porsche. Whilst the tread pattern is the same as a normal PS" or Pilot Sport Cup, the construction and compounds can differ widely in order to fulfill the addiitonal Porsche criteria. Its not just another letter on the side wall from the marketting men.  Admittedly a lot of drivers wouldn't know the difference when sat in the car, but some of us can

I suppose the only real odd-ball is the Veyron - it uses the standard PS2, but also uses the Michelin PAX system insert.

The Veyron uses the PAX system, which employs the same tread pattern as the PS2. Pax tyres are no ordinary tyre, hence why they are £1k each !

Also another stumbling block is the sheer price of the damn things 

Yes but they last longer so p/mile is similar for most sporty drivers - motorway commuters probably won't see the same return on investment.

[Teutonic_Tamer]

but ALL other Porsches use the bog standard PS2s which you can get from your local ATS or ThikFit. 

Porsche use their own approval system above and beyond the normal Z/W/Y rating system - thats why some Michelin tyres sport additional sidewall lettering or the N rating from Porsche. Whilst the tread pattern is the same as a normal PS" or Pilot Sport Cup, the construction and compounds can differ widely in order to fulfill the addiitonal Porsche criteria. Its not just another letter on the side wall from the marketting men.  Admittedly a lot of drivers wouldn't know the difference when sat in the car, but some of us can

Erm, I know exactly what the Porsche 'N*' ratings are - and they are NOT to do with different compounds.  Porsche N ratings are simply due to very slight differences in sizes.  Constructions are also identical, although there are some specific Porsche tyres which are a lighter weight.  And the N ratings are NOT unique to Michelin - ALL tyres for Porsches, irrespective of tyre manufacturer, MUST have the appropriate N rating.  Mercedes are the same with their 'M' rating, and Audi with their 'RO1' rating - but these all share the identical tread compound and construction as the normal PS2s!

I suppose the only real odd-ball is the Veyron - it uses the standard PS2, but also uses the Michelin PAX system insert.

The Veyron uses the PAX system, which employs the same tread pattern as the PS2. Pax tyres are no ordinary tyre, hence why they are £1k each !

Didn't I just say that ^^^^ ? 

Also another stumbling block is the sheer price of the damn things 

Yes but they last longer so p/mile is similar for most sporty drivers - motorway commuters probably won't see the same return on investment.

Motorway drivers will probably benefit more from longer lasting tyres!

[Hairy Porter]

2mm and less depth,
All the brands are just as bad.

Change them for what you can afford. 

[Teutonic_Tamer]

2mm and less depth,
All the brands are just as bad.

Ohhh you are SO wrong there.  It is when they are nearly worn out that differences between good and bad tyres opens up wider than the Grand Canyon!

[Hairy Porter]

2mm and less depth,
All the brands are just as bad.

Ohhh you are SO wrong there.  It is when they are nearly worn out that differences between good and bad tyres opens up wider than the Grand Canyon!

Not so.
See Max Power grand tyre test.
Baldies were very bad indeed. 

[Rhyso]

2mm and less depth,
All the brands are just as bad.

Ohhh you are SO wrong there.  It is when they are nearly worn out that differences between good and bad tyres opens up wider than the Grand Canyon!

unless you use Falkens where the gap is as wide as the Grand Canyon to start with