Who has Dynaudio?

[DL]

iTunes does in fact offer the Apple Lossless Encoder. Obviously with a lossless (as opposed to "lossy") encoder, the file size will be considerably larger.

Yeah its better but not the same as lossless but then ipods were designed as portable devices where storage is key not audio quality. They are perfect for listening to through headphones just less so when used as an audio source.

[Rolfe]

iTunes does in fact offer the Apple Lossless Encoder. Obviously with a lossless (as opposed to "lossy") encoder, the file size will be considerably larger.

Yeah its better but not the same as lossless but then ipods were designed as portable devices where storage is key not audio quality. They are perfect for listening to through headphones just less so when used as an audio source.

So true.  Which is why I prefer to have the CD on my shelf as a master copy.

However, I find an 8Gb iPod takes an awful lot, at the standard compression rate.  And they're marketing much bigger ones too.  If 8Gb will swallow the entire Ring cycle without noticing it (as it will), I wouldn't say storage capacity was the problem.  Transfer times, maybe, but you can always run them in the background while you're doing other stuff.

Rolfe.

[DL]

Absolutely, and the capacity is getting bigger all the time. Hard Drive technology has improved no end over the last couple of years. Apple have done such a great job with the ipod as well.

[VWKev]

Were listening to music in a car, its hardly the ideal place for serious music listening.

Convert your music to mp3's with Lame at 192k variable and you will have very decent quality. Certainly nothing lossy/lossless is needed for the car.

[simonpolly]

I was in the local Bang & Olufsen store the other week they have some speakers in there for £18,000

[DL]

Were listening to music in a car, its hardly the ideal place for serious music listening.

Convert your music to mp3's with Lame at 192k variable and you will have very decent quality. Certainly nothing lossy/lossless is needed for the car.

Kev you are absolutely right, I'm just a bit anal when it comes to things like this.

[DL]

I was in the local Bang & Olufsen store the other week they have some speakers in there for £18,000

If you had the money I could sell you a very nice 103" screen for £90,000.00. Being a forum member I'm sure we could sort you out a very good deal though

If you wanted those speakers as well we could do something really special 

[simonpolly]

Bargin, i`ll take two

[DL]

Bargin, i`ll take two

I thought so, PM me your card details and address and I'll get them ordered up 

[AdrianM]

iTunes does in fact offer the Apple Lossless Encoder. Obviously with a lossless (as opposed to "lossy") encoder, the file size will be considerably larger.

Yeah its better but not the same as lossless but then ipods were designed as portable devices where storage is key not audio quality. They are perfect for listening to through headphones just less so when used as an audio source.

I'd bet you couldn't tell the difference between a CD and the same lossless encoded track played through a new generation iPod hooked up to any of the Golf stereos. I'd even bet that no one here could differentiate between a 320K encoded mp3 and a CD, especially in a car that was actually moving; you could probably drop that to much more coarse encoding too and get away with it for most driving conditions or even any time the engine is running.

Seems like there's some subjective audiophile ignorance showing its ugly head here. I'd bet you'd even recommend people to use $$$ external DACs too. 

For those that don't know, there's a lot of ignorance and myth in the audio world, considerable amounts of which is championed by "high end" A/V salesmen that make their biggest profits from selling ridiculously over priced cables to the unsuspecting public.