Which options to opt for???

[ub7rm]

DSG, 5 doors.
Anything else is a waste of money that can be spent on the Mk7.

  he wants a well specced car now not in 4 years time!

Mk7 is to be shown in 2 years.  The Mk5+reskin Mk6 will have had a 7 year life by then, and the hybrids will be coming thick and fast from the other makers.

Can I ask - Mr Hairy Potter - were you dropped on your head when you were a nipper? Just curious. 

Why would VW want, in such tough times, spend money on R&D of MK7 if Mk6 has just been introduced and is selling great? The MK5 was too expensive to build and that's why MK6 was introduced. It may be similar to MK5 on the outside but it is a new model nd will stay here till 2016.

You have this the wrong way round, the MK6 looks different on the outside, but its the same underneath as the MK5.  Same platform (PQ35?), same control systems.  The changes are mostly to the body skin.  Panels are no longer bolted on as they were on the mk5 but welded.  Cheaper and quicker to make that way.

[VWKev]

DSG, 5 doors.
Anything else is a waste of money that can be spent on the Mk7.

  he wants a well specced car now not in 4 years time!

Mk7 is to be shown in 2 years.  The Mk5+reskin Mk6 will have had a 7 year life by then, and the hybrids will be coming thick and fast from the other makers.

Can I ask - Mr Hairy Potter - were you dropped on your head when you were a nipper? Just curious. 

Why would VW want, in such tough times, spend money on R&D of MK7 if Mk6 has just been introduced and is selling great? The MK5 was too expensive to build and that's why MK6 was introduced. It may be similar to MK5 on the outside but it is a new model nd will stay here till 2016.

You have this the wrong way round, the MK6 looks different on the outside, but its the same underneath as the MK5.  Same platform (PQ35?), same control systems.  The changes are mostly to the body skin.  Panels are no longer bolted on as they were on the mk5 but welded.  Cheaper and quicker to make that way.

  Is that what you honestly believe ?

[Radek]

DSG, 5 doors.
Anything else is a waste of money that can be spent on the Mk7.

  he wants a well specced car now not in 4 years time!

Mk7 is to be shown in 2 years.  The Mk5+reskin Mk6 will have had a 7 year life by then, and the hybrids will be coming thick and fast from the other makers.

Can I ask - Mr Hairy Potter - were you dropped on your head when you were a nipper? Just curious. 

Why would VW want, in such tough times, spend money on R&D of MK7 if Mk6 has just been introduced and is selling great? The MK5 was too expensive to build and that's why MK6 was introduced. It may be similar to MK5 on the outside but it is a new model nd will stay here till 2016.

You have this the wrong way round, the MK6 looks different on the outside, but its the same underneath as the MK5.  Same platform (PQ35?), same control systems.  The changes are mostly to the body skin.  Panels are no longer bolted on as they were on the mk5 but welded.  Cheaper and quicker to make that way.

Yes, that's correct. What I meant was that the biggest changes were to the manufacturing process and (cheaper) parts used - not something you can easily see... There are changes to body skin and modules are moved around the car a little bit but from cost point of view that wasn't the prioryty - and the high costs were the reason to drop MK5.

I can tell you how important is to find a cheaper plastic door handle that can save 1 euro on a car!

[mac7]

I can tell you how important is to find a cheaper plastic door handle that can save 1 euro on a car!

Even if they save half a euro-cent, or 2 seconds on not having to open a plastic bag to get a component out, they'll take it. Every last fraction of a penny counts in mass production.

And yes, the Mk6 is a overhaul of the Mk5 to save cost, refresh the styling and improve perceived quality - nothing more. But none the worse for that - the Mk5/PQ35 is an excellent platform.

On the subject of options - has anyone specified auto hold on a manual (std on DSG)? Do you get a little button with auto hold written on it? Just wondered as I used to have this in my Passat and found it useful.

[gizzywizzy]

Well DWGTI what have you decided and when are you placing your order? all the best, try and knock those stealers down for a decent discount while your at it and don't forget to go for the "back to invoice gap" which is essential but don't buy it from the stealers unless they give you a cracking price.  Keep us posted.

[DWGTI]

Well DWGTI what have you decided and when are you placing your order? all the best, try and knock those stealers down for a decent discount while your at it and don't forget to go for the "back to invoice gap" which is essential but don't buy it from the stealers unless they give you a cracking price.  Keep us posted.

Thanks Ive been hunting around and the prices differ a fait bit, especially Audi with the S3. Dont worry the Gti is my choice now for sure.  Still in no rush but I want the car baaaaaaad! Ps whats back to invoice gap? 

[ub7rm]

DSG, 5 doors.
Anything else is a waste of money that can be spent on the Mk7.

  he wants a well specced car now not in 4 years time!

Mk7 is to be shown in 2 years.  The Mk5+reskin Mk6 will have had a 7 year life by then, and the hybrids will be coming thick and fast from the other makers.

Can I ask - Mr Hairy Potter - were you dropped on your head when you were a nipper? Just curious. 

Why would VW want, in such tough times, spend money on R&D of MK7 if Mk6 has just been introduced and is selling great? The MK5 was too expensive to build and that's why MK6 was introduced. It may be similar to MK5 on the outside but it is a new model nd will stay here till 2016.

You have this the wrong way round, the MK6 looks different on the outside, but its the same underneath as the MK5.  Same platform (PQ35?), same control systems.  The changes are mostly to the body skin.  Panels are no longer bolted on as they were on the mk5 but welded.  Cheaper and quicker to make that way.

  Is that what you honestly believe ?

Its what I know to be fact.  There are big differences to the exterior panels and the interior fitments and a new egine but thats about it.  The running gear (with the exception of the optional mag shock absorbers) is the same.

What is know as the 'chassis' (platform) is the same, which fundamentally (from an engineering point of view) makes it pretty much the same car.

If you are only looking at the surface then it certainly appears to be completely different but it isn't.  Its like putting new cladding on your house.  Its the same house underneath but it looks radically different. 
 

[Gazdebaz]

Well DWGTI what have you decided and when are you placing your order? all the best, try and knock those stealers down for a decent discount while your at it and don't forget to go for the "back to invoice gap" which is essential but don't buy it from the stealers unless they give you a cracking price.  Keep us posted.

Thanks Ive been hunting around and the prices differ a fait bit, especially Audi with the S3. Dont worry the Gti is my choice now for sure.  Still in no rush but I want the car baaaaaaad! Ps whats back to invoice gap? 

Gap has been discussed under this topic

http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=123098.0

[shrocco]

Well DWGTI what have you decided and when are you placing your order? all the best, try and knock those stealers down for a decent discount while your at it and don't forget to go for the "back to invoice gap" which is essential but don't buy it from the stealers unless they give you a cracking price.  Keep us posted.

Thanks Ive been hunting around and the prices differ a fait bit, especially Audi with the S3. Dont worry the Gti is my choice now for sure.  Still in no rush but I want the car baaaaaaad! Ps whats back to invoice gap? 

Gap has been discussed under this topic

http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=123098.0

  cars depreciating faster than you're actually paying for them. genius.

[matchboy]

  cars depreciating faster than you're actually paying for them. genius.

at least our cars actually have a value; the skip you drive isn't worth a tin of beans.  so shhhh please as you have nothing constructive to add to any of these threads.  why don't you go start your own forum - may i suggest www.mycariswankandimjealousofotherpeoplesmotors.com/imacock