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Re: Effect of 100km/h to 0km/h on a Golf Mk6 GTD in a second
« Reply #90 on: 22 September 2009, 16:27 »

Oh just one other thing, your driving your shopping car to your fav supermarket, merrily minding your business on your wives head as she tries to find your nob to sook it but she gives up,

Hurah! Kev looses the moral high-ground AGAIN and resorts to petty insults as he's not capable of a more acceptable retort...anyway...you were saying?


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and as you look up you spot a 5 yo girl on the road.... now your doing maybe 60 or so, you break and turn to avoid her. It might not even be a little girl, it could be a tree, who cares.... so you've turned, and instead of XDS helping  (notice how I said help, I never said its definately going to but it will help)  you keep glued to the ground you skid and whack the girl or tree. Is XDS not giving you the extra bit of help to avoid that situation ?

So I've braked...as in your example?
And have tried to swerve? Just as you say?

Then no, XDS is doing nothing as it's designed to stop wheelspin UNDER POWER. Even EDL is disconnected when you brake...

However, humouring you,...In that instance ESP takes over.
You are braking and trying to avoid...then it's ABS that stops the wheels from locking, allowing you to turn, and if you lock up and end up sidewards, it's ESP that will try to pull you straight by braking opposite callipers to the direction of 'skid'.

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I know I dont know as much as I'd like to think I do, so I'm sure you'll pick what you need out of this paragraph to make another damning response, but don't, as I say, your cool.

Kev, then why don't you stop having a go at people (again) who are trying to explain things to you, in order that you understand better?

Arguing the toss when you are plainly incorrect and don't understand does nothing to make me look cool.
However, it does make you look a bit foolish.


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Re: Effect of 100km/h to 0km/h on a Golf Mk6 GTD in a second
« Reply #91 on: 22 September 2009, 16:28 »
So XDS wont keep you planted on the ground better when cornering ?

NO!
It only stops you wasting power by wheelspinning...it can't help the car stay planted...only help it put the power down more efficiently.

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Re: Effect of 100km/h to 0km/h on a Golf Mk6 GTD in a second
« Reply #92 on: 22 September 2009, 16:29 »

your driving your shopping car to your fav supermarket,


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I'm glad these little touches dont go un-noticed.  :grin: :wink:


 :grin:  clocked that little dig straight away!  its such a ridiculous comment to make about a GTI it always makes me laugh!
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Re: Effect of 100km/h to 0km/h on a Golf Mk6 GTD in a second
« Reply #93 on: 22 September 2009, 16:29 »

Oh just one other thing, your driving your shopping car to your fav supermarket, merrily minding your business on your wives head as she tries to find your nob to sook it but she gives up,

Hurah! Kev looses the moral high-ground AGAIN and resorts to petty insults as he's not capable of a more acceptable retort...anyway...you were saying?


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and as you look up you spot a 5 yo girl on the road.... now your doing maybe 60 or so, you break and turn to avoid her. It might not even be a little girl, it could be a tree, who cares.... so you've turned, and instead of XDS helping  (notice how I said help, I never said its definately going to but it will help)  you keep glued to the ground you skid and whack the girl or tree. Is XDS not giving you the extra bit of help to avoid that situation ?

So I've braked...as in your example?
And have tried to swerve? Just as you say?

Then no, XDS is doing nothing as it's designed to stop wheelspin UNDER POWER. Even EDL is disconnected when you brake...

However, humouring you,...In that instance ESP takes over.
You are braking and trying to avoid...then it's ABS that stops the wheels from locking, allowing you to turn, and if you lock up and end up sidewards, it's ESP that will try to pull you straight by braking opposite callipers to the direction of 'skid'.

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I know I dont know as much as I'd like to think I do, so I'm sure you'll pick what you need out of this paragraph to make another damning response, but don't, as I say, your cool.

Kev, then why don't you stop having a go at people (again) who are trying to explain things to you, in order that you understand better?

Arguing the toss when you are plainly incorrect and don't understand does nothing to make me look cool.
However, it does make you look a bit foolish.



f**k sake dude, I keep setting myself up and you keep batting me out the ball park. You're on fire.


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Re: Effect of 100km/h to 0km/h on a Golf Mk6 GTD in a second
« Reply #94 on: 22 September 2009, 16:31 »

 :grin:  clocked that little dig straight away!  its such a ridiculous comment to make about a GTI it always makes me laugh!

So did I.
But you have to humour some people...

If I choose to go shopping in my GTI...then to me, it's a shopping car.
Surely that's the owners prerogative. No?

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Re: Effect of 100km/h to 0km/h on a Golf Mk6 GTD in a second
« Reply #95 on: 22 September 2009, 16:32 »
So XDS wont keep you planted on the ground better when cornering ?

NO!
It only stops you wasting power by wheelspinning...it can't help the car stay planted...only help it put the power down more efficiently.

Ahhhh, so XDS doesnt help with traction, it doesnt help when cornering or response. See I'm learning something new every day, at this rate I'll have my dunce hat off in no time.


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Re: Effect of 100km/h to 0km/h on a Golf Mk6 GTD in a second
« Reply #96 on: 22 September 2009, 16:33 »

f**k sake dude, I keep setting myself up and you keep batting me out the ball park. You're on fire.

It's not about scoring points Kev...
It's just that you have the systems mixed up as to what is capable of what. I'm not trying to be funny...but go look through Bosch's site and it explains how ABS, ESP and TCS (their Traction Control) all work and interface.


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Re: Effect of 100km/h to 0km/h on a Golf Mk6 GTD in a second
« Reply #97 on: 22 September 2009, 16:34 »

 :grin:  clocked that little dig straight away!  its such a ridiculous comment to make about a GTI it always makes me laugh!

So did I.
But you have to humour some people...

If I choose to go shopping in my GTI...then to me, it's a shopping car.
Surely that's the owners prerogative. No?

When I get my GTI I'll go round roundabouts with it, will it be a roundabout car ?


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Re: Effect of 100km/h to 0km/h on a Golf Mk6 GTD in a second
« Reply #98 on: 22 September 2009, 16:35 »

 :grin:  clocked that little dig straight away!  its such a ridiculous comment to make about a GTI it always makes me laugh!

So did I.
But you have to humour some people...

If I choose to go shopping in my GTI...then to me, it's a shopping car.
Surely that's the owners prerogative. No?

let's not start this again  :grin:
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Re: Effect of 100km/h to 0km/h on a Golf Mk6 GTD in a second
« Reply #99 on: 22 September 2009, 16:36 »

Ahhhh, so XDS doesnt help with traction, it doesnt help when cornering or response.

It helps when under power.
You know, when you put your right foot down on the right pedal?

Not when you brake and swerve as in your example...
But that didn't go your way...so you have to try some other form retort.


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at this rate I'll have my dunce hat off in no time.

Rest assured...that day is a long way off.

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