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Offline Ess_Three

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Re: Effect of 100km/h to 0km/h on a Golf Mk6 GTD in a second
« Reply #60 on: 22 September 2009, 13:48 »
I would actually argue that XDS is a performance feature rather than a safety feature :lipsrsealed: :grin:

So would I...
XDS isn't a safety feature.

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Re: Effect of 100km/h to 0km/h on a Golf Mk6 GTD in a second
« Reply #61 on: 22 September 2009, 14:10 »
Yes, you're all right, I'm a bad person.  I only posted it for information.

I suspect, now I've read the rest of the thread, that on the journey where it didn't chime at all, I wasn't going fast enough to activate it.  (As I said, through narrow village street for about a quarter of a mile.)

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Re: Effect of 100km/h to 0km/h on a Golf Mk6 GTD in a second
« Reply #62 on: 22 September 2009, 14:33 »
The point here is not how much your car costs. Its you, the driver... Even if the car is built to withstand any impact (hypothetically), if you the driver drives like a c0ck... nothing is gonna save you or your passengers. The lady in Aberdeen aquaplaned, nothing any driver can do about it. She is lucky to be alive considering the impact.

Yeah, the GTI has seatbelt warnings which activates after 60 seconds or so. Its bloody annoying.

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I'm not making a point of how much a car costs, I'm trying to make the point that you should be getting better and more protection in a car at any given price compared to one at say half the price. If a £30k car has the same safetly rating and protection of a car at £10k then I will be asking questions. As you say, if the driver drives like a c0ck then he is asking for trouble, but the c0ck driver should be more protected in a car that costs a fair amount of money.



A base golf costs 14k or thereabouts, sticking a bigger engine and some body kit on it isn't going to make it safer...

If your GTI is specced up to 28k it is exactly double the cost with no additional protection.  Well, a couple of airbags maybe?  What do you expect them to do?   Redesign the entire car becuase your paying a bit more?  Its not hard to see that while there is much tinkering around the edges with airbags / crumple zones and the like - at the end of the day it is (like every other car) a jumped up tin can thats going to deform badly if you drive it into anything at speed.

IMO people should drive as if they expect their cars to give them no protection whatsoever in an accident.  The standard of driving would be much improved ...

I need to stop swearing, so I've edited that out.

XDS, thats an extra safety feature on the GTI. Incase you didnt know, safety is not all about airbags.

Indeed, well done.  If you read my post properly, you will see that I regard airbags etc as 'tinkering on the edges' of safety provision.

XDS is a hadling enhancement as others have pointed out  :tongue:
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Re: Effect of 100km/h to 0km/h on a Golf Mk6 GTD in a second
« Reply #63 on: 22 September 2009, 15:18 »
Let's say hypothetically, if XDS is for better handling only, then isnt that a safety feature that a car is handling better should you say, have to turn sharply or as it works along side ESP that you get better traction ? Should you need to swerve, turn sharply etc, XDS/ESP will keep you on the road more than a car without it, and as you guys say give better handling should you need it. All safety features in my eyes.


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Re: Effect of 100km/h to 0km/h on a Golf Mk6 GTD in a second
« Reply #64 on: 22 September 2009, 15:19 »
XDS is traction control right?
In that case it is kind of a safety feature as well as a handling enhancement.
But obviously it won't help if you drive into a tree  :tongue:
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Re: Effect of 100km/h to 0km/h on a Golf Mk6 GTD in a second
« Reply #65 on: 22 September 2009, 15:21 »
the std golfs dont/wont go fast enough for XDS to be any use :tongue: :grin:

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Re: Effect of 100km/h to 0km/h on a Golf Mk6 GTD in a second
« Reply #66 on: 22 September 2009, 15:23 »
Let's say hypothetically, if XDS is for better handling only, then isnt that a safety feature that a car is handling better should you say, have to turn sharply or as it works along side ESP that you get better traction ? Should you need to swerve, turn sharply etc, XDS/ESP will keep you on the road more than a car without it, and as you guys say give better handling should you need it. All safety features in my eyes.

It works with ESP?
Surely ESP works on its own...and will cut power - the opposite of what XDS does...that's to allow more power to be used, and transmitted to the tarmac by preventing the wheelspinning wheel from taking (and wasting) all the torque, as it would normally do in a car with an open diff.

XDS is only a more advanced version of EDL - it uses the ABS pump to activate the calliper of the spinning wheel, to try to stop torque wastage and send it to the wheel with grip.

It's doing a similar job to a LSD (electronically...and not as well to be honest) and you would never accuse an LSD as being a safety feature, would you?

Which means you can use more power, and corner faster...in a very unsafe way!
Not especially Safety enhancing that - allowing you to corner harder!

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Re: Effect of 100km/h to 0km/h on a Golf Mk6 GTD in a second
« Reply #67 on: 22 September 2009, 15:23 »

Iv turned my seatbelt chime off via VAGCOM  :lipsrsealed:


How did you do it Alan?
Is there a guide somewhere?

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Re: Effect of 100km/h to 0km/h on a Golf Mk6 GTD in a second
« Reply #68 on: 22 September 2009, 15:24 »
XDS is traction control right?

Sort of...it's trying to do the job of a limited slip diff. Electronically.

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Re: Effect of 100km/h to 0km/h on a Golf Mk6 GTD in a second
« Reply #69 on: 22 September 2009, 15:25 »
Have you got VAGCOM?

I do...latest VCDS.

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