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Re: Revo remap report (p.3): the Frog has done it!
« Reply #140 on: 21 November 2009, 05:15 »
No idea I'm afraid. I live in the UK and thus have no use for anything above 70mph.  :lipsrsealed:
However in theory it is possible that the top speed could very slightly be increased by the fact the car holds onto its power longer before tailing off at the very top end. This would be marginal though as the GTI has a K03 turbo which is designed for fast spool up at low revs and a lively mid range. The Golf R has a K04 turbo which would indeed have a higher top speed than a standard one as it is designed to hold its power higher up the rev range better than the K03. The K04 doesn't spool quite as quickly at low revs though, but this is marginal and its a very tuneable unit. In short, by far the biggest gain on a REVO'd GTI is in the mid-range where the added torque struts its stuff.
Perfectly happy with my K03 though (for the warranty period at least).  :nerd:
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Re: Revo remap report (p.3): the Frog has done it!
« Reply #141 on: 21 November 2009, 07:50 »
In situations where you can actually get the power down - straight line, dry surface - acceleration and mid-range pick-up is significantly better since the remap. I have never measured it, but working on VW's official figure of 6.9 seconds 0-60 with the standard engine, I would say it was down to about 6 seconds dead with the Revo remap. It's all pretty academic though, as is top speed; the fastest I have gone so far is about 110mph and only for a few seconds.

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Re: Revo remap report (p.3): the Frog has done it!
« Reply #142 on: 21 November 2009, 11:03 »
Better way to judge performance gains imo is to compare ingear times before modification and after.

So for example
30-70 mph through the gears (Often used when overtaking)
30-50 in 3rd & 4th gear
50-70 in 4th, 5th and 6th gear.

That way your taking away the variable of the drivers ability of getting a good standing start. (Even with DSG and launch control, grip/tyres/road conditions etc will effect it)
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Re: Revo remap report (p.3): the Frog has done it!
« Reply #143 on: 21 November 2009, 12:03 »
Agreed Snoops, I've always bought the GTIs because of their mid-range performance (ie. useable on road performance) and thus prefer  the K03 GTIs and the 8v'ers of old to the higher revving (more powerful) versions that have also been available. Using the Snoopy table above, the REVO (or other software) really comes into its own.
I think Paling was interested more in the top speed because he's based in Germany. As said, completely academic to most of the rest of us.
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Re: Revo remap report (p.3): the Frog has done it!
« Reply #144 on: 21 November 2009, 12:13 »
The figures i posted i would be interested in. So if anyone would like to do a before and after table of them it would be much apreciated.
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Re: Revo remap report (p.3): the Frog has done it!
« Reply #145 on: 21 November 2009, 12:18 »
I've only seen the figures for standard cars, I've yet to see a road test of a modified MK6 GTI, only a scirocco in VW Driver which was more mk5 based engine wise.
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Re: Revo remap report (p.3): the Frog has done it!
« Reply #146 on: 21 November 2009, 12:29 »
The biggest limitation on the golf's top speed (and all other golf shaped cars) is aerodynamics rather than power.  The 'sheer drop' design of the back is not good aerodynamically and after a point is difficult to overcome with shear horsepower.  Saloon shaped cars a are much better aerodynamically in this respect.

Comparing the mk5 GTI and R32's, even though the R had considerably more HP the top speeds weren't that different as the aerodynamics were much the same.
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Re: Revo remap report (p.3): the Frog has done it!
« Reply #147 on: 21 November 2009, 15:59 »
As it was dry and sunny this afternoon, I decided to take the car out and try to measure the 0-60mph time using the Launch Control function on the DSG 'box. I had never tried this before and I was only going to do it once for the sake of my clutch! Using the stopwatch on my iPhone and trying to be as fair and accurate as I could, the result was a rather surprising 5.48 seconds :shocked:

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Re: Revo remap report (p.3): the Frog has done it!
« Reply #148 on: 21 November 2009, 17:14 »
As it was dry and sunny this afternoon, I decided to take the car out and try to measure the 0-60mph time using the Launch Control function on the DSG 'box. I had never tried this before and I was only going to do it once for the sake of my clutch! Using the stopwatch on my iPhone and trying to be as fair and accurate as I could, the result was a rather surprising 5.48 seconds :shocked:

Good result - slightly better than I'd expected. Isn't there an iphone app specifically for measuring 0-60 acceleration?
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Re: Revo remap report (p.3): the Frog has done it!
« Reply #149 on: 21 November 2009, 17:42 »

As it was dry and sunny this afternoon, I decided to take the car out and try to measure the 0-60mph time using the Launch Control function on the DSG 'box. I had never tried this before and I was only going to do it once for the sake of my clutch! Using the stopwatch on my iPhone and trying to be as fair and accurate as I could, the result was a rather surprising 5.48 seconds :shocked:

Hmm.. very good result there.  :smiley:


Looking forward to my remap :evil: