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Offline Hairy Porter

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Re: Golf R
« Reply #60 on: 21 September 2009, 16:00 »
It looks a decent car, but the more you read about it the more it feels like a parts bin special.
The old engine from the S3, a few new light bulbs and a haldex with an electric pump.

Run-out special like the ED30, perhaps?

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Re: Golf R
« Reply #61 on: 21 September 2009, 16:12 »
It looks a decent car, but the more you read about it the more it feels like a parts bin special.
The old engine from the S3, a few new light bulbs and a haldex with an electric pump.

Run-out special like the ED30, perhaps?

Maybe... but there will always something a little better along in a moment. Its how they make their money.

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Re: Golf R
« Reply #62 on: 21 September 2009, 16:15 »
It looks a decent car, but the more you read about it the more it feels like a parts bin special.
The old engine from the S3, a few new light bulbs and a haldex with an electric pump.

Run-out special like the ED30, perhaps?

Nah - look across most of the VAG range and you'll see parts shared across various plaforms/marques. An extreme example being the Gallardo V10 in the Audi R8 V10.

That's just how it is these days. All the R&D money is being pumped into "green" technologies by the manufacturers.
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Offline Hairy Porter

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Re: Golf R
« Reply #63 on: 21 September 2009, 16:40 »
Must admit I would love a fast hybrid with front and rear electric motors, an efficient combustion engine and 0-60 of less than 5 seconds (just like BMW's VED prototype).  Silent running in town too.

Me likey that future a lot.

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Re: Golf R
« Reply #64 on: 21 September 2009, 17:05 »
Must admit I would love a fast hybrid with front and rear electric motors, an efficient combustion engine and 0-60 of less than 5 seconds (just like BMW's VED prototype).  Silent running in town too.

Me likey that future a lot.

Whereas I would rather have a 1967 Shelby Mustang GT500. Hugely inefficient, hugely noisy and belches more CO2 than a Chinese power station.

Back in the real world, I'm thinking would it be better to buy an R with a couple of extras, or a fully loaded GTI?
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Re: Golf R
« Reply #65 on: 21 September 2009, 17:25 »

Whereas I would rather have a 1967 Shelby Mustang GT500. Hugely inefficient, hugely noisy and belches more CO2 than a Chinese power station.

Amen to that.

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Back in the real world, I'm thinking would it be better to buy an R with a couple of extras, or a fully loaded GTI?

I think we should heed Hairy's advice and not get a 'Mk5.5 tarted up old model', as the Mk7 will be here in several years...so we should save our money for that, and not waste it on a Mk6.
I mean, what's the point in living for the moment?
Or maybe we should buy a Citroen Picasso and give up all hope?




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Re: Golf R
« Reply #66 on: 21 September 2009, 17:28 »
what car do you drive at the moment hairy porter?
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Re: Golf R
« Reply #67 on: 21 September 2009, 17:43 »
Back in the real world, I'm thinking would it be better to buy an R with a couple of extras, or a fully loaded GTI?

For me, it all depends on the price of the Golf R.
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Offline Tailpipe

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Re: Golf R
« Reply #68 on: 21 September 2009, 18:04 »
It looks a decent car, but the more you read about it the more it feels like a parts bin special.
The old engine from the S3, a few new light bulbs and a haldex with an electric pump.

Run-out special like the ED30, perhaps?

I don't share your view that the new Golf R is the parts bin lash-up that you accuse it of being. What tips the balance in its favour for me is its new 4-wheel drive system. it's significant because it is a substantially different and better from previous R32 system. It should be very good on icy winter roads and generally make the R a very fast point-to-point machine with fully usable grunt.

The brakes are also new. The suspension is new with considerably better shocks than on standard GTi. The differences between 2-litre EA113 and EA888 are slight. The EA888 was primarily designed to be cheaper to manufacture, so it would need to beefed-up in order to ensure reliability at higher outputs. To develop a performance version of the EA888 put would have been riskier and taken longer than to go with an already excellent unit proven in the Audi A3 and TT. New isn't always better. Personally, I think the EA113 is the better unit, that's why it takes longer to make.

I understand that ACC and xenon lights are standard on the Golf R too, so only DSG, leather and SatNav options will be real price-boosting options.

And, perhaps the most important thing to say about current VW pricing - which has just increased in the last week by the way (sorry if mentioned elsewhere) - is that given soft demand for all brands of cars, VW are just trying to start from a strong position when you negotiate the price down...

I am fully confident that discounts even on this will be available by February 2010. There won't be an extension to the UK's scrappage scheme, so dealers everywhere will be discounting everything they've got.

Still, the basic price is steep. Even so, I'm very tempted.

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Offline Hairy Porter

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Re: Golf R
« Reply #69 on: 21 September 2009, 18:20 »
As a manufacturer the weak pound has boosted my sales abroad.
It also puts up the price of VW's.
My '08 GTI 5 door was £17,999 plus £1,300 for the DSG, brand new.

Once Gordon is out of the way the pound may well rise, with cheaper cars back again.