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Offline Ess_Three

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Re: R20T
« Reply #70 on: 14 September 2009, 12:06 »

A bullitt proof anchor that is!!  :grin:

Slightly more appealing than a pop corn matchine in a baked bean can :tongue: :evil:

Bullet-proof it may be...but it still leans forward of the drive-line, carries too much weight too high up and gives Audi-like levels of understeer.
You can try to mask it all you like by adding 4WD and sending drive to the front...but you can't 'chuck' about anything with a VR/V6 hanging out the front.
Great noise though...  :grin:
(although possibly still not as good as a BMW straight 6, or even close to a Porsche flat 6)


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Re: R20T
« Reply #71 on: 14 September 2009, 12:14 »
"VW Golf R
2.0-litre turbo and four-wheel drive hot hatch"

From CAR ONLINE Frankfurt motor show preview. Now I really am starting to believe that it might indeed be 4WD after reading the same from other sources.
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Re: R20T
« Reply #72 on: 14 September 2009, 12:16 »

A bullitt proof anchor that is!!  :grin:

Slightly more appealing than a pop corn matchine in a baked bean can :tongue: :evil:

Bullet-proof it may be...but it still leans forward of the drive-line, carries too much weight too high up and gives Audi-like levels of understeer.
You can try to mask it all you like by adding 4WD and sending drive to the front...but you can't 'chuck' about anything with a VR/V6 hanging out the front.
Great noise though...  :grin:
(although possibly still not as good as a BMW straight 6, or even close to a Porsche flat 6)



Still quicker on every track over the GTI, sounds more chuckable to me  :laugh:

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Re: R20T
« Reply #73 on: 14 September 2009, 12:20 »
Still quicker on every track over the GTI, sounds more chuckable to me  :laugh:

Every track include Knockhill?
As every time I go, the V6s are understeering off...

Power circuits I'd probably agree to a point.
But since I don't live on a track, it's largely irrelevant...I'd still take the 4 pot as the chassis is better - or more suited to my driving style shall we say.

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Re: R20T
« Reply #74 on: 14 September 2009, 12:35 »
I totally disagree with any statement that says the R understeers. That is only true if you dont know how to drive it! Thats all there is to say on the matter. :rolleyes:

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Re: R20T
« Reply #75 on: 14 September 2009, 12:40 »
I totally disagree with any statement that says the R understeers. That is only true if you dont know how to drive it! Thats all there is to say on the matter. :rolleyes:

I'm inclined to agree...you have to learn to drive to it's strengths and weaknesses.
Out of the box, and for a more traditional 'Hot Hatch' driving style, it understeers though...

Ideally, a tuned 4 cylinder with the R32 running gear would be good - sort of like an S3 but with steering feel and feedback. Oh hang on...isn't it going to be called the Golf R20?   :grin:
Well blow me.
Who'd have thought...

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Re: R20T
« Reply #76 on: 14 September 2009, 12:43 »
I totally disagree with any statement that says the R understeers. That is only true if you dont know how to drive it! Thats all there is to say on the matter. :rolleyes:

I'm inclined to agree...you have to learn to drive to it's strengths and weaknesses.
Out of the box, and for a more traditional 'Hot Hatch' driving style, it understeers though...

Ideally, a tuned 4 cylinder with the R32 running gear would be good - sort of like an S3 but with steering feel and feedback. Oh hang on...isn't it going to be called the Golf R20?   :grin:
Well blow me.
Who'd have thought...

Lets hope so!!  :grin: :grin:

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Re: R20T
« Reply #77 on: 14 September 2009, 12:45 »
As for the understeer comments, I agreed until I had it on the track. My word. The problem is, you need to have serious balls to take a corner fast enough to make the Haldex really kick in and 'steer' the car as well for you. My word can it take corners. I for one dont have enough balls to do it on roads, nor is it really safe so when you feel the car is going to understeer, to stop it, you actually have to be putting your foot down and tryin to take the corner faster. Its a strange concept, but my goodness does it work when you know really how to drive the R32.
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Re: R20T
« Reply #78 on: 14 September 2009, 12:51 »
As for the understeer comments, I agreed until I had it on the track. My word. The problem is, you need to have serious balls to take a corner fast enough to make the Haldex really kick in and 'steer' the car as well for you. My word can it take corners. I for one dont have enough balls to do it on roads, nor is it really safe so when you feel the car is going to understeer, to stop it, you actually have to be putting your foot down and tryin to take the corner faster. Its a strange concept, but my goodness does it work when you know really how to drive the R32.

I found the same thing in early days of having the car... for god's sake dont brake :shocked: it will scare the cr4p out of you!! once you learn to drive it properly, understeer is a thing of the past. I find that switching the esp off makes the car a totally different beast all together! A  must for any R owner :evil:

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Re: R20T
« Reply #79 on: 14 September 2009, 12:59 »
See... told you it was going to be 4WD. :rolleyes:

Get yourself a stage 3 remap:
http://www.superchips.co.uk/curves/AudiS320T%20Stage3%20WM.pdf

Then, bingo, you've got yourself a 337BHP 4WD Porsche 911 beating machine!  :laugh:
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