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Re: R20T
« Reply #30 on: 11 September 2009, 21:26 »
Yesterday I pulled over to see if I rev'd the engine nice n hard how the exhaust sounds.... it wouldnt even let me go over 4k revs  :shocked:

Do I have launch control???

I dunno if you have launch control, but it is seriously bad for an engine to be reved without any loading.  So maybe the ECU limits static engine revs.
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Re: R20T
« Reply #31 on: 12 September 2009, 08:25 »
Yesterday I pulled over to see if I rev'd the engine nice n hard how the exhaust sounds.... it wouldnt even let me go over 4k revs  :shocked:

Do I have launch control???

I dunno if you have launch control, but it is seriously bad for an engine to be reved without any loading.  So maybe the ECU limits static engine revs.

Shame really, wanted to hear if it sounded as tame outside as it does inside :undecided:

Oh well should put another couple of 100miles on her today!! Anfield here we come!!  :evil:

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Re: R20T
« Reply #32 on: 12 September 2009, 11:15 »
At least you have yours to try and listen too i just have to keep watching this http://videos.streetfire.net/video/Video-2010-VW-Golf-GTI_643849.htm
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Re: R20T
« Reply #33 on: 12 September 2009, 12:36 »
My tuppeneth on the Golf R20:
(1) It will be 4WD
(2) It will be more than 265BHP - perhaps around 280.

My reasoning being: VW need to differentiate between the Golf R20 and Scirroco R. If they're both FWD and same power output, why bother with the Golf.

I wouldn't be inclined to believe a stealer... I mean come on they make it up as they go along! And Auto Express....pppllleeeease!
Pure speculation... use it as toilet paper.

All will be revealed next week (hopefully). The fact it has been kept under wraps so long (after the accouncement of the Scirroco R) leads me to believe it will something special/different and not just the Scirroco R platform in a Golf dress.

And the lack of V6 - yes it's sad. It's a great loss (I've owned 2 Mk5 R32s), but it's time to move on.
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Re: R20T
« Reply #34 on: 12 September 2009, 12:51 »
My tuppeneth on the Golf R20:
(1) It will be 4WD
(2) It will be more than 265BHP - perhaps around 280.

My reasoning being: VW need to differentiate between the Golf R20 and Scirroco R. If they're both FWD and same power output, why bother with the Golf.

I wouldn't be inclined to believe a stealer... I mean come on they make it up as they go along! And Auto Express....pppllleeeease!
Pure speculation... use it as toilet paper.

All will be revealed next week (hopefully). The fact it has been kept under wraps so long (after the accouncement of the Scirroco R) leads me to believe it will something special/different and not just the Scirroco R platform in a Golf dress.

And the lack of V6 - yes it's sad. It's a great loss (I've owned 2 Mk5 R32s), but it's time to move on.

I'd like to believe you're right but I fear not.  They won't want to differentiate it from the Scirocco on performance grounds.  The golf will be pitched as a practical version of the roc.  Plus the fact they won't want to step on the S3's toes.  Given the cost of the normal GTI, a 4wd 2.0T monster golf will very likely be in S3 territory in terms of performance, handling etc but just under the cost.  Can't see that being allowed to happen.

At the moment the roc uses the same engine as the GTI, so they are not differentiating on performace, it is just the 'frock' thats different.  Don't think this is going to change for R vs R either...
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Re: R20T
« Reply #35 on: 12 September 2009, 15:30 »
My tuppeneth on the Golf R20:
(1) It will be 4WD
(2) It will be more than 265BHP - perhaps around 280.

My reasoning being: VW need to differentiate between the Golf R20 and Scirroco R. If they're both FWD and same power output, why bother with the Golf.

Erm, one is a very restrictive, unpracticable two door coupe with very restriced rear visibility, and appeals to a very limited sector of car owner.  The other appeals to a universal prospective owner, in a very practical 3 or 5 door family hatch where getting your granny in the back doesn't require the fire service to chop off the roof.

Apples and oranges . . .  :smug:
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Re: R20T
« Reply #36 on: 12 September 2009, 17:01 »
So it looks like the 'Roc R will be the poor mans version...can't wait to find out next week!

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Re: R20T
« Reply #37 on: 12 September 2009, 23:44 »
It just wont be 4wd. The mk6 GTI can be made to £30k with options, how much will the R20 be?  :undecided:

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Re: R20T
« Reply #38 on: 13 September 2009, 11:06 »
It just wont be 4wd. The mk6 GTI can be made to £30k with options, how much will the R20 be?  :undecided:

If the Roc .:R is expected to start from £26k and is the 'poor mans version' then I'd imagine the Golf would have to start from £28k?

Personally I'm going for the 'poor mans version' - not because I'm poor... just because I prefer the styling of the Roc.  In the 2 years I owned my ED30, I could have counted the times my back seats were used on 2 hands! 
If I had kids and a grandma, then a Golf would be much better - but currently I might as well make the most of being young(ish!) and having no family!!
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Re: R20T
« Reply #39 on: 13 September 2009, 11:30 »
ofc. it will be FWD .. why would it be 4WD? I would Kill the rocco.
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