Really glad I bought a Mk5 when I did.

[jaydubveedub]

I think that image of the R20T is a photoshop special from Auto Express (as usual) hence why it has R8 V10 wheels.

Although now we have seen the Rocco R20, we can guess what the Golf R will look like.

[synnea]

That autoexpress (like many of their 'exclusive' articles) was a load of tosh back then.

The R20 Golf (or whatever its going to be called) will be revealed next week officially at the Frankfurt motor show. It starts 15th Sept.


http://carscoop.blogspot.com/2009/09/vw-golf-r-to-break-cover-in-frankfurt.html

(dated only 2 days ago) and there are many other articles online stating the same.

I hope the car looks as good as those photoshops and it had sure well better have 4motion. Its bad enough losing the V6..........gone is the true character of the R Golf model 

[R32UK]

Ahh the rumours

hopefully we will have something confirmed over the next couple of months. With models hitting the dealer in about 2 yrs... just in time for my new motor

But for me it HAS to be 4wd!!!

As for the price... it going to be a couple of grand more than the current GTi and with options it will be quite a few more As for waiting.... your always going to be waiting as there will always be something better and faster around the corner

[synnea]

The following major introductions will be presented at the 2009 Frankfurt Motor show:

* Alfa Romeo MiTo Quadrifoglio Verde
* 2010 Aston Martin Rapide
* 2010 Audi A5 Sportback
* 2010 Audi RS3
* 2010 Audi R8 Spyder
* Audi e-tron concept [9]
* 2010 Bentley Mulsanne
* 2010 BMW X1
* 2010 BMW X6 ActiveHybrid
* 2010 BMW 7 Series ActiveHybrid
* 2010 BMW 3 Series Coupe and Convertible facelift
* 2010 BMW 5 Series
* 2011 BMW 6 Series facelift
* BMW Vision EfficientDynamics concept
* Bugatti Bordeaux
* Citroën C3
* Citroën DS3
* 2010 Ferrari 458 Italia
* Fiat Punto Evo
* 2011 Ford C-Max
* 2010 Honda CR-V
* 2010 Hyudai i10 Electric
* 2010 Hyundai i30
* 2010 Hyundai ix35
* Hyundai ix Metro Concept
* 2010 Jaguar XJ
* 2010 Kia cee'd facelift
* 2010 Kia Venga
* 2010 Kia Sorento
* Kia Forte LPI Hybrid
* Kia cee'd Hybrid
* Kia Sorento Hybrid
* Lexus LF-Ch full hybrid premium compact concept
* Lotus Elise Club Racer [10]
* 2011 Maserati GranCabrio
* Mazda MX-5 Superlight concept
* 2010 Mercedes-Benz SLS AMG
* Mini Coupe Concept [11]
* 2010 Opel Astra
* 2010 Peugeot RCZ
* 2010 Peugeot 5008
* 2010 Porsche 911 Sport Classic
* 2010 Porsche 911 Turbo
* 2010 Porsche 911 GT3 Cup
* 2010 Porsche 911 GT3 RS
* 2010 Porsche Panamera (European debut)
* Rolls-Royce Ghost
* 2010 Saab 9-5
* Toyota Auris HSD Full Hybrid Concept
* Toyota Prius Plug-In Hybrid Concept
* 2010 Toyota Land Cruiser
* 2010 Volkswagen California
* 2010 Volkswagen Caravelle
* 2010 Volkswagen Polo 3dr
* 2010 Volkswagen Transporter
* 2010 Volkswagen Polo BlueMotion
* 2010 Volkswagen Polo GTI
* 2010 Volkswagen Golf BlueMotion
* 2010 Volkswagen Passat BlueMotion
* 2010 Volkswagen R20 Golf
* 2011 Volvo C30
* 2011 Volvo C70
* 2010 Volvo XC60 R-Design

[Saint Steve]

Auto express image(s) when the GTi mk6 was about to be unveiled was spot on last time. Thats why i was quick to believe what i saw from that report. I cant wait to see what it turns out to be.

[Hairy Porter]

If the R20T is 4WD then I'm going into Hadwins to order one (5 door DSG) on Wednesday.

I hope there is a nice choice of colours, not just white, black and grey.

[synnea]

Deep Blue Pearl will be a choice for 100% (or equivalent name for the blue)

[bobotheclown]

Looks lovely. My only reservation is that as awesome as that 2.0T engine is, it has no soul. You need a 6-cyl engine to bring a car to life IMO

And you can just tweak your standard one up to that power anyway, why bother paying what will be 5k for the privalege? I would just buy an R32

I think I am getting old

I'm not sure that you would be able to tweak a standard GTi to match the performance of the R20T. Look at the remap results of the Mk5 GTi and Ed30 as an example. Standard GTi remaps to around 250bhp and the Ed30 to around 300bhp. Both are essentially the same engine apart from the Ed30 having a bigger turbo.

[rjwojcik]

Doesn't the ED30 have stronger internals?

[synnea]

Yes, I believe the R20 will use the engine from the Edition 30, not the engine from the MKVI GTI. Hence if the R20 Golf is 270 standard then a remap to 300 should be possible.

Perhaps TT, if you are about, you can explain the technical and mechanical differences between the 2.0 Engine variant of that used in the Edition 30/R20 between that of the MKVI GTI?