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[R32UK]

Guys, T_T has been no end of help to the mk5 guys (and me when i had one) the only reason your posts are 'flamed' is because information you have been passed/heard etc is probably incorrect. choose to listen/ dont choose to listen but he knows his stuff and is invaluable when it comes to anything technical bout dese' new motors!

Well put Dan!! 

I couldnt agree more. Although some of you will have differing opinions for whatever reason, he is a great help for many on here and doesnt charge you for sound advice which is very hard to come by. Just pop down your local dealer for an example of the opposite.

yes we all know TT is passionate about what he writes, but its all mean in good humour I assure you. Play nice peeps

[gossa]

Nope, ALL engines need running in - even VW ones!
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Hi, I'm relatively new to the forum, you seem to be very knowledgeable but you also seem to just jump on a thread and shoot people down without any helpful follow up.  If you know so much why not share it rather than just flame every post?  [/quote]

Huh - I don't think I just jump in on any thread without actually backing up my comments and concerns with valid additions!  I would doubt the very last thing that others would say about me is that I fail to offer any 'helpful follow up'! 

You do make people weezle it out of you rather than just offering it up though.

"Actually all engines should be run it correctly because blah blah blah....."

OK, then - do tell me where, officially, where definative manufactuer-approved information is to NOT run in an engine?   

Dunno mate, I never made the comments about running an engine in.

"Actually that oil isn't recommended because of blah blah however Y brand is good because....."

Ohhhhh - now I ALWAYS back up my oil based discussions with hard based facts!  I think your complaint on this particular issue should be directed in the other direction. !!

Yes you do back it up but not at first so if you know the info just post it and not like: No, you shouldn't use that oil! then three posts later post what they should use, see my point?

Get my drift? You seem to love a dramatic exclamation mark.

Erm, my comments will never be more 'dramatic' - compared to someone stating that 'engines do NOT need running in'!  That latter comment is both extremely arrogant, and utterly without ANY technical proof - yet you call me dramatic.  Pot, kettle, and black.
HAND, and all that.
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Again fella, the engine comment wasn't mine so I remain undramatic and your upper case words and exclamation points backs up my point.

As I have said, you seem to be very knowledgeable TT and that's what 'ordinary' people like me come on here for, to get good info and thanks for the interesting stuff you've posted that has been helpful. But you've also been wrong about stuff and said tyres are shyte you evidently haven't driven on.   

[DonnieDarko]

i'd like to know if running is really that important-

do demo's get run in? i think not, audi let me spank an A3 black edition to 6rpm in the first couple of gears and it only had 200miles on the clock, and during my test drive in the gti the sales rep told me their sales manager had an R32 (presumably well under 5,000 miles) had achieved 8mpg on one journey.  Get this - he then followed it up with an offer as it would soon be up for sale, and was actually surprised at my lack of interest. i would imagine that would require some hard revving even in an r32

so - has anyone bought an ex-demo - if so and they are usually fine, then surely running in is not quite as important as we might think.

don't get me wrong my scoob got run in (book says to keep under 4k revs), and so will the gti (not sure of rev limit) 

[Mk6Maniac]

This thread turned into an interesting debate about most things, but just thought Id put my 2 cents in and say anyone who wants to start 'i just did this speed' conversations is a bit of a plank to be fair. This forum is about discussing, appreciating, helping and doing all things GTI, not getting your d*&ks out and waving them in each others faces surely?!!!!

On a related note, I went 289mph in mine yesterday, whilst achieving that speed I was eating a burger and watching a DVD, beat that...

[AudiA8Quattro]

Running in is usually for the first 1000 miles.
All metal against metal parts need to bed in, otherwise you risk having permanent problems with excessive oil consumption, and even compression issues.
Some people seem to get away with it, i can't say for sure. But if it was my motor i wouldn't take the chance!

[Teutonic_Tamer]

I think it is fairly commonly accepted that courtessy cars, dealer demos, hire cars, lease cars, press fleet cars - all never get run in.  But these are always sold on long before any potential probs can arise.

Specifically regarding dealer demos - I would suggest that the general advice would be to avoid where possible.  However, there are some dealers who do actually run in their demos correctly - though this is usually their higher performance 'halo' cars, such as the GTI, R32, RS4, R8.  But I doubt that any 1 litre 3 cylinder VW Fox gets properly run it!  So the best, and most 'common sense' advice would be simply to get to know the dealer - and get them to drive the car with you in it - and see how they treat it.  OK, this isn't going to give an 'absolute' answer, but at least you can get some kind of idea of weather they are 'mechanically concientious' or not.

[jdjd]

I heard a rumor Hayselden In doncaster crashed a new GTI against the ramps in the garage. Fixed the paint and side up quick and sold it brand new to a customer. 
 That treating cars well for you

[Jkctr]

...the sales rep told me their sales manager had an R32 (presumably well under 5,000 miles) had achieved 8mpg on one journey.  ......i would imagine that would require some hard revving even in an r32

Nope 

Into S and floor it and you will easily see 8mpg 

[DonnieDarko]

...the sales rep told me their sales manager had an R32 (presumably well under 5,000 miles) had achieved 8mpg on one journey.  ......i would imagine that would require some hard revving even in an r32

Nope 

Into S and floor it and you will easily see 8mpg 

but as an average for the whole journey?? it was 'apparently' circa 100 miles!

[R32UK]

...the sales rep told me their sales manager had an R32 (presumably well under 5,000 miles) had achieved 8mpg on one journey.  ......i would imagine that would require some hard revving even in an r32

Nope 

Into S and floor it and you will easily see 8mpg 

but as an average for the whole journey?? it was 'apparently' circa 100 miles!

Very unlikely... others usually get in the way

Joking aside 8mpg is not that difficult from the off, but to maintain that over 100miles is going tobe very difficult unless your on a track.