Manual to DSG

[Jkctr]

Ok, let me ask you one question from what I wrote, take it close to redline in any gear, you telling me that the DSG wont automatically change up when you get close ?

In manual no, you will have to go very high!

and if you dont change down it wont change down for you??

No. Did you ever even have a DSG?

In manual (gear stick to the left so no override) in 2nd, round a bend, still in second, accelerate and into 3rd.

Im guessing you did this

In D, drop a gear with a paddle into 2nd, round a bend revs rise and it overrides back into auto and changes up into 3rd/4th

or for your example,

In manual (gear stick to the left) coming to a round about in 2nd, hold in second move off still in 2nd and into 3rd.

[herbie911]

This Auto vs manual argument pops up at every other car forum
DSG/PDK/F1/SMG vs Manual
My view is one pick a particular option to suit one needs!
Despite aircon saps power from my car I still want aircon in my car because it is more comfortable in the summer
I pick manual over DSG cause I go to work early and finish late. Traffic jam is not an issue with me!
My hand eye coordination is still good enough for me to drive manual.
I think anyone can drive a golf dsg like a pro but manual will require more skill. That's why if you take an automatic driving test, you can drive a dsg or PDK but you will not be allowed to drive a manual car!
The sad thing is many of us is getting old and turning into Jeremy Clarkson. Like big power car with automatic gearbox. The young one got used to paddleshift with their playstation and think manual are old fashion. There is not enough Stig-like driver out there (Midthirties and got 3 points on his licence) shutting please do not stop producing manual car. That's why the new ferrari f450 will not even offer a manual option! VERY SAD!

[matchboy]

at the end of the day, it takes more skill to drive a manual because you actually have to drive the car and think about what you're doing.  i'm sure the dsg is excellent.  but its for lazy drivers.  that's just my opinion.  if i was a granny or a women who only drives to tescos and back the dsg would be perfect.  but i'm not.  i like to drive.  so i drive a manual!   

good luck to all you dsg owners though, its an excellent bit of kit.

[Jkctr]

What are you on about 

It has manual! You have to think about each gear, which revs etc etc

[Max Q]

If you have no idea of DSG (as in you have had it for a short while i.e. under a month) then please refrain from posting as you are just showing you have no clue 

My sentiments exactly. An awful lot of ignorance of DSG and how it works being shown here by the 1 or 2 usual suspects who appear to be on a life-long crusade against DSG. If you don't know what you're talking about then STFU! It's getting boring reading the same diatribe against DSG from the same posters (who clearly don't know what they're talking about) every time the topic is raised.

All this crap about 'but it will change up at redline' therefore you lose some control of your car is total rubbish and a non-argument. In a manual you'll hit the rev limiter just above redline and you'll either have to change up yourself or slow down. The DSG changes up just above the redline for the exact same reason why the manual has a rev limiter - to protect the engine from a crap driver who is going to damage it. Equally, the 'ah, but it also changes down on you in manual' argument - yes it does but only to prevent the engine from stalling! Is that not a good thing?

If you operate the engine in the normal operating rpm range, i.e from idle to redline, in the DSG manual mode - the car WILL NOT CHANGE GEAR UNLESS YOU TELL IT TO.

[AlanD]

This sort of thread has been done a thousand times in the MK5 section.

DSG is unique to each person, some like it, some dont. Some swear by it and other cant stand it. For me manual wins. Id rather use the £1300 on the car (remap, decent tyres etc etc etc).

[howlingmoon]

I agree with AlanD... to each his own preference.

[AlanD]

All this crap about 'but it will change up at redline' therefore you lose some control of your car is total rubbish and a non-argument. In a manual you'll hit the rev limiter just above redline and you'll either have to change up yourself or slow down. The DSG changes up just above the redline for the exact same reason why the manual has a rev limiter - to protect the engine from a crap driver who is going to damage it.

Spot on. People REALLY shouldn't be taking their car to redline. Not only is it not doign your engine any good, but maximum power is achieved BEFORE the redline, there is no reason for getting to the redline, unless your a sh!te driver lol

[Rolfe]

This sort of thread has been done a thousand times in the MK5 section.

DSG is unique to each person, some like it, some dont. Some swear by it and other cant stand it. For me manual wins. Id rather use the £1300 on the car (remap, decent tyres etc etc etc).

Well, the reason the thread was started was to get some input from people who have actually made the move from manual to DSG, to get some idea of what problems might be encountered by someone making the change for the first time, and maybe even some idea of the good or bad points encountered by people used to manual transmissions who are now actually driving DSGs.

If Kev (or the other nay-sayers) haven't ever driven a DSG car on a longterm basis, then I don't think the diatribles are really on topic.  I'd like to know how the thing actually performs, not how people absolutely dead set against it imagine it performs.

I doubt if I've ever red-lined my car in its entire 11+ years of life.  My main fault is being too lazy to change down, either when slowing down, or when making a sudden decision to overtake.  So I think the DSG will be good for me.  And I decided to buy it instead of the leather seats, because I liked the tartan.

I'd like to know, from the perspective of someone used to manual transmissions, how the DSG actually is to live with in different driving situations.  I imagine it's a boon in slow, heavy urban traffic.  However, how is it as compared to a manual on twisty country roads?  On hills?  When overtaking?  Do you often find yourself flipping it into manual, and if so when, or do you find you leave it in automatic most of the time?  What's the "sport" setting like in comparison to the ordinary "drive" setting?

Even, are you thrilled that you spent the money now that you've lived with it for a while, or are you kicking yourself and can't wait to get back to a manual?  And if so why?

I think all these would be interesting to hear about.  Rants about how nobody should be thinking about buying it in the first place, from people who've never driven one for an extended period of time, not so much.  We get that some people have decided the DSG is not for them.  Great.  It's a free country.  But this thread is really seeking the more considered opinions of those who decided it was for them, once they've lived with it for a little while.

Rolfe.

[matchboy]

My main fault is being too lazy to change down, either when slowing down, or when making a sudden decision to overtake.  So I think the DSG will be good for me. 
Rolfe.

thanks for proving my point!   

i certainly wasn't sl@gging off the dsg however, i think its an excellent bit of kit for those that want it.