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Offline Teutonic_Tamer

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Re: Super or regular?
« Reply #170 on: 20 August 2009, 11:04 »
Lots of good advice on here... but ultimately you make the choice as to which fuel goes in, so if your looking for conclusive proof, then here is probably not the place your going to find it:nerd:

Hmmmm . . . whilst I generally agree with you - places like these can help make 'more informed' choices.  It is no different to the 'which oil' issue - the book says you can use either 502.00 or 504.00 - but it doesn't tell you which is the BEST oil.  :nerd:
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Re: Super or regular?
« Reply #171 on: 20 August 2009, 11:06 »
Did you ? You explained about how its got base settings to use 95, not why they have decided to do this and not stick with the MK5s 98RON settings . . ?

What advantages does it bring to the user apart from the obvious saving in fuel cost in not needing to purchase "super" fuel?

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Re: Super or regular?
« Reply #172 on: 20 August 2009, 11:12 »
out of interest - why is the MKVI GTI engine designed to run on 95RON??

Huh - did I not explain that earlier in the thread?  :undecided:


nope just that the Audi developed engine is now set to use 95RON but not the WHY have they done that part  :tongue:

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Re: Super or regular?
« Reply #173 on: 20 August 2009, 11:17 »
Did you ? You explained about how its got base settings to use 95, not why they have decided to do this and not stick with the MK5s 98RON settings . . ?

Are you sure?  Being is this thread is now 18 pages long, I certainly CBA to read through all that lot again!  :tongue:

So . . . . basically, the reason the Mk6 (and just like this new TSI, and its 1.8 variants in Audis) can use 95 for maximum fuel economy is simply down to the fact that Audi must have made advances and improvements in the actual design and specification of this new engine.  One of the most common ways is to improve the shape and profile of the combustion chamber through CFD - but unless you have a Mk5 and a Mk6 engine stripped down on the bench side by side - you aint gonna see it.  More obvious improvements include a much higher fuel rail pressure - the Mk5 had a max of 110 bar, the Mk6 is 150 bar.  Fuel injectors have improved too - Mk5 were five hole and Mk6 are six hole.  And then there is the 'valvelift' system.  Understand now?  :smiley:

However, future developments of this engine, such as an Edition 35, or a Mk3 Audi S3 - when they start ramping up the power, may very well need to 'go back' to using a 98 brew.  But for the 'standard' GTI - with its 'ballpark' 200 bhp - the boffins at Audi have achieved the 200 horses from just 95 brew.

Have I missed anything?  :smiley:
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Re: Super or regular?
« Reply #174 on: 20 August 2009, 11:19 »
So basically the reason they have done it is because they can, so why not.

I could pick your brains all day lol

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Re: Super or regular?
« Reply #175 on: 20 August 2009, 11:43 »
So basically the reason they have done it is because they can, so why not.

Yup.  But if I had said that - it wouldn't have satisfied you!  :lipsrsealed:


I could pick your brains all day lol

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Re: Super or regular?
« Reply #176 on: 20 August 2009, 13:44 »
I have no idea at all why Alan was quoting from how the Mk5 was set up, in his (rather tetchy) answer to me who has a Mk6 on order (which is kind of why I was asking in the Mk6 forum), but we seem to be clearer now.

Rhyso has basically said what I was about to say, most of us on here are just trying to help. I dont know why I bother sometimes in this section. The reason it was such an abrupt reply is because I've actually lost count how many times you have asked the same poxy question with regards to fuel.

Look, I'm genuinely grateful for everyone's help.  Sorry if I asked the question several times, but this is the first time I've had a definite reply.  As the thread grew, the position just got more and more convoluted.  I'd posted a couple of times that the brochure for the MkVI specifically said 95RON, but still people were talking as if the car was optimised for 98.

T_T has explained it so that even I can follow it, so thanks again to all.

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Re: Super or regular?
« Reply #177 on: 20 August 2009, 13:47 »
Group hugs and kisses :kiss:

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Re: Super or regular?
« Reply #178 on: 20 August 2009, 13:49 »
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Re: Super or regular?
« Reply #179 on: 20 August 2009, 13:55 »
Group hugs and kisses :kiss:

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