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Offline jdjd

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Re: Super or regular?
« Reply #160 on: 19 August 2009, 19:11 »
thanks TT!!! you have just convinced me I will defo need a remap :evil:

 Then lets go £500 each revo lincoln  :cool:

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Re: Super or regular?
« Reply #161 on: 19 August 2009, 19:17 »
thanks TT!!! you have just convinced me I will defo need a remap :evil:

 Then lets go £500 each revo lincoln  :cool:

LOL!! you still trying to get me to drive down to Lincoln??  :tongue:

Dont have the car yet... but Im gonna try find out the closest one to Leeds first. Your not too far from Leeds so I will see if I can haggle a discount first :grin: the more the merrier!!

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Re: Super or regular?
« Reply #162 on: 19 August 2009, 19:22 »
thanks TT!!! you have just convinced me I will defo need a remap :evil:

 Then lets go £500 each revo lincoln  :cool:

LOL!! you still trying to get me to drive down to Lincoln??  :tongue:

Dont have the car yet... but Im gonna try find out the closest one to Leeds first. Your not too far from Leeds so I will see if I can haggle a discount first :grin: the more the merrier!!

When is it due then?

Maybe you'd be better going to one of the VAG shows, and get a healthy discount on Revo - just like they did at this years GTI International.  Mine was so good, I went back the next day in the other set of wheels and got that done too - and wangled an extra discount too.  :lipsrsealed:
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Re: Super or regular?
« Reply #163 on: 19 August 2009, 19:28 »
thanks TT!!! you have just convinced me I will defo need a remap :evil:

 Then lets go £500 each revo lincoln  :cool:

LOL!! you still trying to get me to drive down to Lincoln??  :tongue:

Dont have the car yet... but Im gonna try find out the closest one to Leeds first. Your not too far from Leeds so I will see if I can haggle a discount first :grin: the more the merrier!!

When is it due then?

Maybe you'd be better going to one of the VAG shows, and get a healthy discount on Revo - just like they did at this years GTI International.  Mine was so good, I went back the next day in the other set of wheels and got that done too - and wangled an extra discount too.  :lipsrsealed:

Just waiting to get a collection date for the R... will schedule delivery of the Gti for the same day if I can :smiley:

Its actually been sat at the dealers for a couple of weeks now :undecided: Did think of getting down to a show but work commitments make it a tad difficult at the mo :sad:

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Re: Super or regular?
« Reply #164 on: 19 August 2009, 19:43 »
How many times? Because it has more octane in it which the FSI engine is designed to run on (runs for longer in FSI mode, this has all been said and I cant be assed to find the link). It has cleaning agents in which help keep your engine cleaner, thus more efficient. You get more MPG. Your meant to get more power (all be not much) etc etc etc. You just have to decide if you want to spend that bit more on your fuel or not, it will run perfectly well on 95.

But you seem to be forgetting that Audi have developed the latest TSI Mk6 engine to now achieve maximum economy with just 95 RON.  So by simply slinging 99 at it will NOT give you any further improvements in fuel economy.  The ONLY time using 99 would give improvements in power and/or economy is if it was remaped.

You see my confusion?

Rolfe.

Huh - AlanD was quoting from how the Mk5 GTI was set up, whereas my answer was for the Mk6!

So in a Mk6 GTI - max economy will be gained with 95 RON.

Well, at least this looks like a reasonably definitive answer.

I have no idea at all why Alan was quoting from how the Mk5 was set up, in his (rather tetchy) answer to me who has a Mk6 on order (which is kind of why I was asking in the Mk6 forum), but we seem to be clearer now.

So, no advantage in fuel economy, and am I also right that there's no power advantage?  Or might there be?

And it's debatable whether there might be an advantage in cleaning the engine, but probably not much difference if one uses quality branded 95 RON rather than cheap supermarket own-brands (excluding Texco's own brand, which is rocket juice).

Am I getting it?

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Re: Super or regular?
« Reply #165 on: 20 August 2009, 08:39 »
I have no idea at all why Alan was quoting from how the Mk5 was set up, in his (rather tetchy) answer to me who has a Mk6 on order (which is kind of why I was asking in the Mk6 forum), but we seem to be clearer now.


its called 'helping'

seeing as the MK5 and MKVI are so closely related in terms of engineering it would have been reasonable to assume the engine is designed to run on the same brand of fuel but TT has pointed out that its very different

and to be fair he did apologise for being a bit ratty but you seem to have missed that out of your quote

out of interest - why is the MKVI GTI engine designed to run on 95RON?? Is it because of that fuel being more widely available?? Recent credit crunch issues??  :smiley:

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Re: Super or regular?
« Reply #166 on: 20 August 2009, 09:05 »
I have no idea at all why Alan was quoting from how the Mk5 was set up, in his (rather tetchy) answer to me who has a Mk6 on order (which is kind of why I was asking in the Mk6 forum), but we seem to be clearer now.

Rhyso has basically said what I was about to say, most of us on here are just trying to help. I dont know why I bother sometimes in this section. The reason it was such an abrupt reply is because I've actually lost count how many times you have asked the same poxy question with regards to fuel.

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Re: Super or regular?
« Reply #167 on: 20 August 2009, 09:46 »
Lots of good advice on here... but ultimately you make the choice as to which fuel goes in, so if your looking for conclusive proof, then here is probably not the place your going to find it:nerd:

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Re: Super or regular?
« Reply #168 on: 20 August 2009, 10:57 »
How many times? Because it has more octane in it which the FSI engine is designed to run on (runs for longer in FSI mode, this has all been said and I cant be assed to find the link). It has cleaning agents in which help keep your engine cleaner, thus more efficient. You get more MPG. Your meant to get more power (all be not much) etc etc etc. You just have to decide if you want to spend that bit more on your fuel or not, it will run perfectly well on 95.

But you seem to be forgetting that Audi have developed the latest TSI Mk6 engine to now achieve maximum economy with just 95 RON.  So by simply slinging 99 at it will NOT give you any further improvements in fuel economy.  The ONLY time using 99 would give improvements in power and/or economy is if it was remaped.

You see my confusion?

Rolfe.

Huh - AlanD was quoting from how the Mk5 GTI was set up, whereas my answer was for the Mk6!

So in a Mk6 GTI - max economy will be gained with 95 RON.

Well, at least this looks like a reasonably definitive answer.

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I have no idea at all why Alan was quoting from how the Mk5 was set up, in his (rather tetchy) answer to me who has a Mk6 on order (which is kind of why I was asking in the Mk6 forum), but we seem to be clearer now.

Well to be fair to Alan, he was probably just presuming that the Mk6 engine would be set up exactly the same as the Mk5 - afterall, they both use FSI and turbos.  And technology doesn't usually take a 'step backwards'.  :cool:

All entirely innocent, if a little misguided.  And Alan isn't usually 'tetchy' either - maybe he was just having a bad day?  :huh:  :cry:

So, no advantage in fuel economy, and am I also right that there's no power advantage?  Or might there be?

Correct on both counts.  The only time that using a higher octane on the Mk6 will give you more power is if you had it remapped.

And it's debatable whether there might be an advantage in cleaning the engine, but probably not much difference if one uses quality branded 95 RON rather than cheap supermarket own-brands (excluding Tesco's own brand, which is rocket juice).

Am I getting it?

Rolfe.

Corrected your typo!  :kiss:

Ohh, the super unleadeds will be slightly better at cleaning your engines innards, but by how much - that is the difficult question - and purely on the 'cleaning' issue, is difficult to give concrete answer.  However, my own personal advice for the Mk6 would be to use normal 95 from the majors or Tesco, but every 4th tankfull, use any of the super unleadeds (and it wouldn't have to be just the 99 RON brews either - BP, Total, Esso - should all be fine).

HTH.  :smiley:
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Re: Super or regular?
« Reply #169 on: 20 August 2009, 11:01 »
out of interest - why is the MKVI GTI engine designed to run on 95RON??

Huh - did I not explain that earlier in the thread?  :undecided:

Is it because of that fuel being more widely available?? Recent credit crunch issues??  :smiley:

Nope and nope!  :tongue:
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