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[gc76]

lol will just be good paint, my 32000 mile R32 hardly has any stone chips either mate  

The interior stuff is good but the exterior stuff is no better than any sealant. In fact probably worse as its an old product, something like Jetseal 101 sealant or collonite will spank it for shine, beading, longevity and cost!

Feel free to search on detailingworld, there several threads with the proffesionals stateing it does work, but not for long and not worth the cost.

I have detailed a few cars and can tell you first hand you will not see much more than 6-8 months from any product  

(check my thread if you dont think i know what im talking about)

http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=4823.0

I do have it on here but that thread is updated with pics  

JulesV6, excellent thread. You must know your stuff.

If you were to put a pack together of cleaning products what would they be?  Also is Autoglym Lifeshine just as bad as Supagaurd???

[howlingmoon]

Hi, since we are talking about protection of paintwork, I was just browsing the German VW website and found this V-Protector. Is it any good? Looks like a screen protector that one applies on handphones but for car hoods. But since I dont speak German I am not actually sure what it actually does. Anybody can shed light on this? Thanking you in advance...

HM

[Rolfe]

Linky?

Rolfe.

[topher]

supaguard "technicians" left my paint with lots of swirls and holograms.. and if you drive it every day it wont last more than 6 months anyway.

[howlingmoon]

Linky?

Rolfe.

Here it is:

https://www.volkswagen-zubehoer-shop.de/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/CategoryDisplay?langId=-3&storeId=10001&catalogId=10051&parent_category_rn=12464&categoryId=14206&top_category=30842&isThirdMenueActive=true&thirdLevelMenueId=14206#CategoryPage&identifier=1247599477243

[jaydubveedub]

Even if you pay for Supaguard/Lifeshine then it probably won't be applied with much care in my experience, plus the margin is huge on it. I know they give you a 'Guarantee' but I don't know anyone who has actually claimed on it.

The best thing to do in my opinion is to buy a bottle of Chemical Guys Jetseal 109 and some good quality wax. Once you get the car home, give it 2 coats of the Jetseal, then 2 coats of wax (something like collinite). Do the wheels as well. Top up the wax every 3 - 6 months. Job done.

If you really must have the lifeshine then buy a kit off ebay for about £25 and apply it yourself. At least then you know it's been done correctly.

[Jkctr]

Just a quick question, when doing the waxing or even washing, why is it that you are not supposed to do it under direct sunlight?  

Speeds up the bonding process among other things which causes it to literally bake onto the paint!!

excellent thread. You must know your stuff.

If you were to put a pack together of cleaning products what would they be?  Also is Autoglym Lifeshine just as bad as Supagaurd???

Niether are 'bad' they just dont last as long as you would expect. As mentioned earlier as well the people that apply it are not detailers and dont car about your paint so you can expect swirls. Therefore having it for free is still not worth it.....would you let someone wash your car with a gritty sponge for free?

A good starter pack would be

1. Megs detailer spray and clay bar
2. A good shampoo, something like chemical guys maxi suds
3. two buckets and a wash mitt
4. Some microfibres and Drying Towel
5. A good polish, glaze and wax (a sealant if you have a bit left over)

If it were me buying i would get this

1. http://www.cleanyourcar.co.uk/detailing-clay/meguiars-quik-clay-kit-50g-clay-/prod_226.html
2. http://www.cleanyourcar.co.uk/washing-and-drying/chemical-guys-maxi-suds-ii/prod_165.html
3. http://www.cleanyourcar.co.uk/washing-and-drying/sonus-sheepskin-wash-mitt/prod_32.html
4. http://www.cleanyourcar.co.uk/microfibre-cloths/ultimate-ultra-plush-buffing-cloth-pkg/3-16-x-16-/prod_163.html
    http://www.cleanyourcar.co.uk/microfibre-cloths/sonus-perfect-shine-drying-towel/prod_304.html5.
5. http://www.cleanyourcar.co.uk/polishing/polish/sonus-hand-polish-bundle/prod_29.html
   (glaze is color dependant so which ever fits your color best, some glazes will stop sealants from bonding)
   http://www.cleanyourcar.co.uk/glazes/cat_21.html   
   http://www.cleanyourcar.co.uk/sealants/chemical-guys-jet-seal-109/prod_484.html
   http://www.cleanyourcar.co.uk/wax/collinite-915-marque-d-39-elegance/prod_281.html
   
Some of those are expensive but will last about 2 years if used correctly (i have lots of jetseal left after two years of use!) The only thing that will run out quickly is the shampoo and detailer spray.

I have not put any interior bit, tyre bits etc etc as i could go on all day lol I have several links within the thread i linked tho 

[gc76]

Cheers for the advice JulesV6. 

[dan_apps]

my mates saab came new from the garage supaguarded' and im not a great detailer or anything but oh dear the swirls on the bodywork was as if someone had put polish on a brillo pad and worked it all round the car!

as Toph said aswell doesnt usually last very long either, another dealer con im afraid!

[keelaw]

Dealer I spoke to today didn't even try to sell it to me. Turned out he was on the fleet side but he reckoned that it wasn't worth it.