Author Topic: Pirelli or Mk6 GTI - have to make my mind up today  (Read 9659 times)

Offline athol

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Hello All

After a year and a bit away from Golfs (I had a MkV GTi then and Ed30) - i have now decided to get back into them. Times have changed for me and i'm able to dump the Jeep that I bought (stupidly) as i was renovating a house and needed a car i didn't care about.

Anyway i can buy either a black MkV Pirelli with all the toys in manual or a new MkVI with not much above standard.

I'm drawn to the "old" car as the spec is awesome and iloved my previous 2 but i'm concerned that the new model will depreciate less and be more of sensible buy financially. Although it doesn't look as nice (the new one), the interior is a little better than the adjustable damper settings are nice too.

Please help! What would you do?
(oh, i know i've posted in the MkV section but honest opinions would be useful)
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Re: Pirelli or Mk6 GTI - have to make my mind up today
« Reply #1 on: 07 July 2009, 16:38 »
Pirelli is better looking, better spec'd and faster. No brainer unless you're desperate for a new plate and the presitige of a brand spanking new model.

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Re: Pirelli or Mk6 GTI - have to make my mind up today
« Reply #2 on: 07 July 2009, 16:39 »
Whats the cost of both and what reg would the pirelli be on?   :smiley:

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Re: Pirelli or Mk6 GTI - have to make my mind up today
« Reply #3 on: 07 July 2009, 16:40 »
the more i see the Pirelli the more it grows on me

if its fully loaded i'd go for the Pirelli; re-sale should be pretty strong so if you get the itch you can change for a MK6 when prices aren't so silly

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Re: Pirelli or Mk6 GTI - have to make my mind up today
« Reply #4 on: 07 July 2009, 16:54 »
Pirelli for me... The fact its so limited just adds to the appeal and should hold its money well in the future  :wink:
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Re: Pirelli or Mk6 GTI - have to make my mind up today
« Reply #5 on: 07 July 2009, 17:55 »
Pirelli for me but at the end of the day its your choice :wink:

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Re: Pirelli or Mk6 GTI - have to make my mind up today
« Reply #6 on: 07 July 2009, 17:58 »
They're both around the 22k mark. The Pirelli is a 58 plate with sat nav, multi cd, multi wheel, park sensors, sun glass, auto dim mirrors and the new one would be the standard car as with the options it's about £27K and that's too much.

I think Pirelli too and only the possible worse depreciation makes me think of the new one. My first MKV was around 3 months after they came out and  i lost £2000 in a year and 12,ooo miles. Good value! I'm worried that the Pirelli will drop too quickly and make me wish i'd gone for the new one.

How many Pirellis are there in the UK? I assume they've now stopped making them?
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Re: Pirelli or Mk6 GTI - have to make my mind up today
« Reply #7 on: 07 July 2009, 18:01 »
There are far fewer Pirellis' than ED30s in the UK and yes production has stopped.
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Re: Pirelli or Mk6 GTI - have to make my mind up today
« Reply #8 on: 07 July 2009, 18:21 »
Drive them both and then decide! :laugh:

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Re: Pirelli or Mk6 GTI - have to make my mind up today
« Reply #9 on: 07 July 2009, 18:55 »
It is a difficult call at the moment for sure. I've been to a couple of VW dealers now to price up a new mk5.5 mk6 GTI and have been surprised to see late mk5s with massive 'run out model' specs for very similar money to the new model. All the sales people are running about doing scrappage deals on Polos and I wonder how much actual interest the new model has had. When the mk5 was launched it was so popular there were big waiting lists and depreciation was slow. Now the economic climate is very different and to try and bolster up the prices of the 'new' GTI VW seem to be making them in very limited numbers from reading between the lines of what the sales execs I've spoken to have said. They also told me that late mk5s are flying out the doors at the moment, probably because to most people the cars are so similar (excluding VWKev on the mk6 forum) and the mk5 offers so much more for your money at present.
The telling time will come in about 12 months when there are a few more mk6s available to see whether they will command the same level of depreciation proof motoring that the mk5 had for the first couple of years.
I reckon that a Pirelli or ED30 with a full spec would hold it's value very well but I'm not so sure that paying the prices a lot of dealers are asking at the moment would be sound financial sense as they are preying on the limited availabilty of decent cars either new or second hand. A better deal right now may be to get an cheaper older (say 07 plate) GTI and wait until prices have settled down to normal a bit.
New Polos on the other hand are very popular and it is extremely fortunate for VW that the scrappage deal was announced at the same time as the old Polo model run out model deals were getting underway. Bad time to be selling a late model Polo though!!!
Take it from me as someone who's been driving Golf GTIs on and off for 23 years, the mk6 doesn't drive much differently to a 200bhp mk5 GTI and despite the claims that it's quieter than the mk5, the mk6 shows up the rattles far more as it's so well sound insulated. One I drove rattled quite badly from a rear door and somewhere in the boot/back seat area on undulating, but not badly surfaced roads.
The mk6 is ahead but not by much and the R model will probably use only a very slightly modified Pirelli engine anyway.
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