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Re: And who said the 8v gti were slow!
« Reply #50 on: 19 June 2009, 11:13 »
Definalty achievable with the spec this thread has opened a big can of worms should be locked or pictures of the rr posted people can always argue dif rolling roads and stuff but shouldn't be taken into consideration inthis thread the guys achievedhis figure leave it at that. IMO pics or it didn't happen :p

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Re: And who said the 8v gti were slow!
« Reply #51 on: 19 June 2009, 11:13 »
It's still a cam though at the end of the day, and regardless, it's got f**k all to do with reprofiling tappets or whatever he was on about :grin:

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Re: And who said the 8v gti were slow!
« Reply #52 on: 19 June 2009, 11:28 »
wish i used that rr  :grin:

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Re: And who said the 8v gti were slow!
« Reply #53 on: 19 June 2009, 11:56 »
Lets look at the mods then.

custom 4-2-1 - Gotta be worth 5bhp
decat - Again at least a few here, lets say 5bhp
stainless throughout - Another 3bhp here?
panel filter - None really butlet's just say 1bhp for sake of arguement.
ported and polished head - THis should easily add a good 10bhp, if it's a good one maybe even more.
reprofiled cams - Depends on spec, lets say a 275 and another 5bhp
and been remaped to suit. - Probably a couple of Bhp due to get the fuelling bang on.

So 112bhp standard plus my rough guesses above = 143bhp

If it's a more metal cam and the map on the ecu is really well set up I can't see why 150 isn't possible. Sure RR's can be a bit over but I really can't see why everyone is bashing this. THere are plenty of 8v's out there producing this kind of power, my MKII should be 140 ish and that's only a 1.9.

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mk3 8v is 115hp standard, and 4-2-1 mani can give far more than 5hp. Ask danny_p. His abf was RR'd and at the time the only modification was a custom 4-2-1 manifold, 150 bhp standard, his pulled 173hp, so thast 23hp from a manifold, although I find it hard to believe only one thing would give such gain.
When I had mine RR'd it pulled 116.6hp, only modification at the time was drilled airbox. It hadnt been serviced in 25k miles, and it was running 95RON. I reckon with a full service and some v-power I would have been able to scrape 120hp, and that is completly standard. Now ive got piperx panel filter and more holes in the airbox, alogn with cold air intake and soon to have decat and chip, I am expexting around 125-130hp.

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Re: And who said the 8v gti were slow!
« Reply #54 on: 19 June 2009, 12:32 »
abfs generally make more than 150 nowadays anyway, vw were a bit conservative in their estimates. dont forget that the 4-2-1 also involved removbing the cat which is a restriction in of itself
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Re: And who said the 8v gti were slow!
« Reply #55 on: 19 June 2009, 12:56 »
I understand that, il get a pic up as soon as the missus gets home with the camera



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Re: And who said the 8v gti were slow!
« Reply #56 on: 19 June 2009, 13:15 »
abfs generally make more than 150 nowadays anyway, vw were a bit conservative in their estimates. dont forget that the 4-2-1 also involved removbing the cat which is a restriction in of itself
well yes i know vw limited the abf power cos they didnt want it to conflict wth the vr6, hence why an abf is popular choice amongst the mk2ers. still, it was limited to 150hp, and a manifold and decat giving 23hp is an awesome gain, just goes to show how important exhaust is.

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Re: And who said the 8v gti were slow!
« Reply #57 on: 19 June 2009, 13:25 »
lol, this one has certainley got a bit firey.
i think id agree that it may be a bit optimistic but if its on paper who are we to argue and well done on having a cracking 8v, lol
would be nice to see the pics but maybe a bit harsh saying he's lying?
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Re: And who said the 8v gti were slow!
« Reply #58 on: 19 June 2009, 13:39 »
abfs generally make more than 150 nowadays anyway, vw were a bit conservative in their estimates. dont forget that the 4-2-1 also involved removbing the cat which is a restriction in of itself
well yes i know vw limited the abf power cos they didnt want it to conflict wth the vr6, hence why an abf is popular choice amongst the mk2ers. still, it was limited to 150hp, and a manifold and decat giving 23hp is an awesome gain, just goes to show how important exhaust is.

ABF's were not limited also the VR6 was aimed at a different market.

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Re: And who said the 8v gti were slow!
« Reply #59 on: 19 June 2009, 13:49 »
abfs generally make more than 150 nowadays anyway, vw were a bit conservative in their estimates. dont forget that the 4-2-1 also involved removbing the cat which is a restriction in of itself
well yes i know vw limited the abf power cos they didnt want it to conflict wth the vr6, hence why an abf is popular choice amongst the mk2ers. still, it was limited to 150hp, and a manifold and decat giving 23hp is an awesome gain, just goes to show how important exhaust is.

ABF's were not limited also the VR6 was aimed at a different market.
from what I heard the abf was limited to 150 because VW did not want it to compete against the vr6. lets be honest dude, 4 cyl 16v with 150 hp, nice. 6 cyl with 12v and 2.8 litres only 180hp? dreadful...