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Offline Wayne

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Re: GTD lack of power -> non-starter -> Sad Jay
« Reply #30 on: 15 June 2009, 19:47 »
Great result for £30

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Re: GTD lack of power -> non-starter -> Sad Jay
« Reply #31 on: 15 June 2009, 20:39 »
£30 per thing he touched more like  :grin:

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Re: GTD lack of power -> non-starter -> Sad Jay
« Reply #32 on: 15 June 2009, 21:56 »
Nope £30 grand total  :tongue: 

I can send you his number if you like ?  :tongue:

He seems like a fair bloke.
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Re: GTD lack of power -> non-starter -> Sad Jay
« Reply #33 on: 16 June 2009, 00:32 »
OK, here's my take on your situation.

The 'choke' (or more precisely cold start assist) makes no difference to the running of the motor under normal conditions.  It advances the timing up to a certain point, then has no effect.  You will not have damaged your motor running with it out.

The clicking relays are fine.  These are powering the glowplugs.

The only power you should have to the diesel pump is a 12V feed to the stop solenoid (already mentioned in here).  This basically stops the fuel flow when there are no volts to it, thus it stops the motor.  Stop solenoids are very simple and very, very rarely fail.  I've only seen them replaced when people have been convinced it's them that are the problem and every time it's been something else, NOT the solenoid.

Has this motor sat around for a while, prior to you buying it?

Although you *can* sometimes get air bubbles in diesel fuel feeds, you shouldn't have them there under normal conditions.  I would have said this is a cause for concern.  Diesels like to have a nice, airless flow of fuel to the motor.  They don't need a lift pump, as the injector pump on the engine pulls enough fuel through to the motor and it should be pulling it through devoid of any air.  Check the connections to the fuel filter and any joints in the feed and/or return.  If fuel is getting into the system somewhere it will properly screw how the motor runs.

The biggest concern at this point is that the pump seals have gone.  They might have dried out if the car's been sat for a few months, doing nothing.  Diesel pumps run extremely high internal pressure through to the injectors.  If there is a leaking seal on the pump it may be oily around the drive sprocket on the cambelt - have a look in there.  If it is letting air into the system during normal running this would account for the car stalling and lacking power - fuel feed is going intermittant, so not all cylinders are firing when they should.

Mechanical diesels like yours are VERY simple creatures.  They need good compression, 12V feed and a solid supply of fuel to the diesel pump.  If all that's in place there's not much excuse for them to not run (except knackered glowplugs, when the motor's cold).  You need to confirm that the injector pump is not leaking air into the system.  That would be my prime suspect in this situaiton.
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Re: GTD lack of power -> non-starter -> Sad Jay
« Reply #34 on: 16 June 2009, 08:25 »
Used as a regular daily? Not down to be standing around.

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Re: GTD lack of power -> non-starter -> Sad Jay
« Reply #35 on: 16 June 2009, 12:15 »
£30........you must have paid him something 'in kind' or he fancied your ar**........?   :laugh:

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Re: GTD lack of power -> non-starter -> Sad Jay
« Reply #36 on: 16 June 2009, 12:43 »
£30........you must have paid him something 'in kind' or he fancied your ar**........?   :laugh:

you aint met jay have you  :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin:

- my thoughts too mr DH - why was air getting in, and the car had done london - oxford then oxford leicester then the troubles started  :undecided:

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Re: GTD lack of power -> non-starter -> Sad Jay
« Reply #37 on: 16 June 2009, 13:02 »
my thoughts too mr DH - why was air getting in, and the car had done london - oxford then oxford leicester then the troubles started.

To be honest, given the age of the car it's unlikely to be the London - Leics that did it and more likely the 100k or so prior to that.  What miles does it have on it?
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Re: GTD lack of power -> non-starter -> Sad Jay
« Reply #38 on: 16 June 2009, 13:30 »
It has 181k on the clock, I will be changing the fuel filter as per instruction of the mechanic.
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Re: GTD lack of power -> non-starter -> Sad Jay
« Reply #39 on: 16 June 2009, 22:44 »
It has 181k on the clock.

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