8v Vs 16v

[Gambit]

is it just a power run or is he gonna set it up for you also?

?50 is about an hours labour on a rolling road so id be expecting to get it setup

[knobby]

I like the 17" rims.. i like the big wheel look.. And they sit in the arches which is new. gonna try putting it down to 60mm one day.

Hopefully the guy will do a little setting up for the ?50.. we shall see.. so my motor the 86 8v Golf, my understanding is that it is fuel injected so i would be able to chip the car...

Any advice on chips?

Cheers

Dave

[gibson]

yeah i got a 86 8v too. wanna know about chipping it too??

[knobby]

RESULTS

Just got back from the guys rolling road. We had a real hard time finding the place then turn up to this old boy with a rolling road in his garage. Apparently he used to race and used it for that but he knew his stuff and on the ramp it went. The golf didnt sound to great the exhaust was ratterling about, think i need to do up some bolts and it began to over heat, the guy said it was runnnin far to lean thus this would mate the engine run hotter, so he adjusted the mixture and off she went. Sounded good on the test and ran well.. the guy took it off for a spin up the road and was inpressed how it put the power to the road. he redlined it couldnt believe it.... and i thought i drove it hard.

Anyways to the important bit.... 127BHP @ engine and 98BHP @ the wheel. Must admit i did expect a little more power bit the guy thought it was about 10BHP more than a standard one. Asked the guy about changin the cam and he said he wouldnt as the standard cams were very good. Also recommended removely the newly purchased K&N air filter as this would help bring up mixture right.

Let me know wat u boyz think..

Cheers

Dave

[marcus123]

up by 10bhp sounds good,

just out of interest how much did it cost to have the work done on your car?

[davidhawkins_78]

I've ended up removing my 57i kit for the very same reason!!

One thing though - you say your Golf is 1986 - yet the engine code is PB from the worksheet at TSR - this says to me you've got a later 'Digi' GTI not a K Jet that a '86 car should have ... also if you've got a K&N that backs this up ....

Did u know this

127 BHP on stock fuel/ignition maps is about right - change the chip and you'll see 6-7 on a stock engine and more with yours! The main thing is you can get rid of the lag from when you floor it to the engine reacting to the full throttle position (it can cycle for up to 3 seconds !), so it's sooooooooooo much more drivable 

[knobby]

Thanks for the posts again....

Question - just out of interest how much did it cost to have the work done on your car?
Answer - I brought the car for ?75 but got bills that show the engine work was ?1760.

Question -
One thing though - you say your Golf is 1986 - yet the engine code is PB from the worksheet at TSR - this says to me you've got a later 'Digi' GTI not a K Jet that a '86 car should have ... also if you've got a K&N that backs this up ....

Answer -
I fitted the K & N filter as it was recommended but todays results say not. When i got the car there wasnt even a filter fitted so i brought a paper one then the k & N Panel filter.  I'm not sure what the engine is.. how can i tell whats been fitted. I have put some pictures below perhaps u can put some light on my rusty old engine. i know its a 1900 now instead of a 1800...

If i were to chip it.. can u recommend any chips and where i can get them from.





Cheers Guys

Dave

[davidhawkins_78]

Sorry to disappoint you bud - but that's not a PB engine it's a K Jet . When you were talking K&N's I assumed you mean't a 57i Kit not a panel filter.

I'd get the documentation from TSR looked at to see if it's a mistake on the engine code or just not for your car as 120 ish bhp from a 'lose' 8 valve is more than possible!

As for the chipping - it's not gonna happen on a K Jet. The fuel and ignition is all mechanically controlled, these engines do not have an ECU like the later models do. BUT don't despare the K Jet 'out the box' has much better throttle responce than a digi !

Sorry if that sounds a little negative - I really don't mean to, just trying to be as straight as I can 

[16v Matt]

Did i read that right you paid ?75 for the car

[rustynuts]

You need to open the head up now, this is now the restrictive part of the engine set up now. I have a similar engine - a C&R 1.9 but this has had a Kent Cam and flowed head, inlet mainfold and exhaust manifold fitting and i can confirm that its a flyer. My last car (I still have it but Girlf drives now with another engine), was rolling roaded at Stealth with 120 bhp and all i had on that was K&N and exhaust and that was a PB.

The engine in my car has done about 60000 miles and is nice and loose now, it smoked my mates 16v of roundabouts the other week and i am really happy with it. I was planning to get a 16v when i got this one as i wanted the engine for my Mk1 eventually,  but this 1.9 will be a lot easier to install and its going to make a real flyer with a 1.6 Mk1 box.

Just remember, you wont have a smooth idle with a cam upgrade.