Best VW Ever?

[Pimpster]

Just manged to catch a bit of time to read what i started!!

Sorry Carl, I only had 8 slots for choices, or i would have included the diesels. I've driven a Mk4 GTI T and a 130bhp Mk4 TDI. Tdi is quicker but the noise.......

There was a recent thing in Autotrader regards GTI's through the ages and the MK1 (an original unmodded VW museum piece) got its RS kicked round a circuit by a Mk4 Anniversary. I do think that the MK3 VR6 would beat an Anniversary on the same contest. The piece is in my desk at work so when i get back on monday i'll post some more details.

 A great page Rich but the bit about a Mk1 beating a Mk3 16v is interesting. In the Autocar article the Mk3 also beat the Mk1 round a circuit (i think!). It probably has something to do with grip and tyre choice but i'll put more on on monday when i re-read it.

Keep the views and votes coming - this may just turn into the most viewed thread ever!

[Pimpster]

Right, got the Autocar test results:

Castle Combe race circuit. BTC Driver Phil Bennett.

Mk1 1.6 GTI: 1m 33.6 secs
Mk2 8v GTI: 1m 33.1 secs
Mk3 16v GTI: 1m 31.2 secs
Mk4 1.8T Anniv.: 1m 27.2 secs

start your arguements gentlemen........

[tattyoldwagon]

Come on all Mk 1 drivers!! I've pulled us level, now we need that push for the title!!

Good idea Rich about Hazel! But don't tell anyone or they'll all do it!

[tinman]

Mk1 1.6 GTI: 1m 33.6 secs
Mk2 8v GTI: 1m 33.1 secs
Mk3 16v GTI: 1m 31.2 secs
Mk4 1.8T Anniv.: 1m 27.2 secs

errm, hold on one moment.

A 1.6 Mk1 GTI? and an 8v Mk2 GTI?

The 1.6 was always known as a mild car, and an 8v Mk2 isn't exactly astounding. But to compare a 180brake car against a 115 and use this as some sort of comparison is a little off the mark.

To be honest, given the figures above, i'd buy the Mk2 or Mk1 and save a bucket load of money cause the Mk4 1.8T Anniversary is rubbish.

The figures speak for themselves, a 65bhp increase in power - 56% extra power, and it went round the track 6 seconds quicker?!? Hardly jaw dropping.

Regards,
Justin

[Pimpster]

It was to probably to compare each car that they had available that was a near to new as possible (the Mk2 has 180 miles on the clock).

It was to settle the old arguement of which is quicker overall. How else are you going to do it?

The Mk1 has 131bhp per tonne and the Mk4 has 117bhp per tonne. Thats quite a difference. As such 6 seconds is quite a huge difference. Blame that on the brakes and the grip available in the mk4.

As for the Mk4 being 'rubbish' - not sure. may not be as fun to drive as the mk1 but i bet its a helluva lot nicer to drive most of the time.

Some of the points you make are good but try and argue the the Mk2 beating the Mk1. Its good to try and concentrate on the Mk4 but what about the Mk2?!!!!

[MK1_BOY]

I beat a VR6 in my MK1 golf the other week, fair enough it was a bird driving but she was giving it all she had, my car just out handled, it was beautiful..  Think we should meet up golfvr6, could be very interesting..

[Pimpster]

I take it your Mk1 is modded?

[Justins145bhpMK1]

MK1's rule, there is no doubt. I kept up with an S3 the other day. Couldnt get past him but he couldnt get away neither!!!

[vr6mk2]

best car of all time, probably.

[8vgti]

I do agree with you mk1 boy about the handling, unless the suspension on the vr6 is uprated, and on mine it is! The standard suspension is crape on the vr6. Whats ya top speed on mk1? 115 miles per hour ha ha!! vr6 does 140. Where abouts are you? i think we should organise our own little meeting for all of us on here.

Be good to arrange some sort of meet....especially on an old runway or something. I think a lot of inaccuracies could be put right then!!! Long live the MK3!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Ha Ha