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Offline ifti

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Re: DSG - at lights.....
« Reply #10 on: 01 May 2009, 13:10 »
So what is the point in having 'P'?
In a manual car, you put the gearstick in the neutral position, and switch the car off etc.
Sorry, maybe a stupid question, but just wondering what the difference between 'P' and 'N' are! I thought 'P' also applied another brake while parked?

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Re: DSG - at lights.....
« Reply #11 on: 01 May 2009, 14:00 »
So what is the point in having 'P'?
In a manual car, you put the gearstick in the neutral position, and switch the car off etc.
Sorry, maybe a stupid question, but just wondering what the difference between 'P' and 'N' are! I thought 'P' also applied another brake while parked?

In 'P' something does 'engage' as you can feel it - also if the car moves a few inches (such as the time between applying 'P' and releasing the footbrake) the car will stop moving.

Also it can't be good keeping your foot on the break - the clutch is still engaged to a certain degree and is probably just as bad as "slipping" the clutch in a manual when stationary :undecided:

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Re: DSG - at lights.....
« Reply #12 on: 01 May 2009, 20:07 »
Do the DSG's not have the electric handbrake then?

Probably got lost in the "Great Crash of 08

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Re: DSG - at lights.....
« Reply #14 on: 02 May 2009, 21:52 »
Read this

http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=90517.30

Put it in N for long periods of time
Do not coast
and
Dont leave your foot on the brake if they are hot

Use some of this mods


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Offline JonnyG

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Re: DSG - at lights.....
« Reply #15 on: 04 May 2009, 20:06 »
LOL ... wish I had a pound for every thread like this  :grin:

However I have a new question regarding this topic  :evil: :laugh:

When waiting for short periods of time and using the footbrake and 'D' - does it make any difference how hard you depress the brake pedal as to how far the DSG clutch disengages ?

I say this because sometimes I brake very lightly, just hard enough to keep the car still in fact, and after a lot of stop / starting (in a queue) the DSG seems to get a little lurchy / jerky on take off, as if the clutch is getting hot or something. 

I have also tried braking harder, and on release it does seem to take longer to fully engage the clutch and move forward but it does'nt seem to get jerky / lurchy at all.     

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Re: DSG - at lights.....
« Reply #16 on: 04 May 2009, 20:28 »
When waiting for short periods of time and using the footbrake and 'D' - does it make any difference how hard you depress the brake pedal as to how far the DSG clutch disengages ?

It doesn't disengage.

Offline JonnyG

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Re: DSG - at lights.....
« Reply #17 on: 04 May 2009, 20:56 »
When waiting for short periods of time and using the footbrake and 'D' - does it make any difference how hard you depress the brake pedal as to how far the DSG clutch disengages ?

It doesn't disengage.

I know it does'nt fully disengage but it is only partially engaged when at a standstill and brake depressed (the manual talks about partial engagement a lot )  ?  hence the question above
« Last Edit: 04 May 2009, 21:04 by JonnyG »
Current : Seat Cupra Lux, DSG, Magnetic Grey, Sept 2019
Gone :    Golf Mk 7 R, 5dr DSG, Pure White, March 2017
Gone :    Golf Mk 7 R, 5dr DSG, Tornado Red, March 2015
Gone :    Audi RS3, Daytona Grey, 7sp S-Tronic, Sept 2012
Gone :    Golf R, Rising Blue, 5dr DSG Mar 2010
Gone :    Golf R32, DBP, 5dr, DSG, Nov 2008
Gone :    Golf GTi ED30, Mar 2007

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Re: DSG - at lights.....
« Reply #18 on: 04 May 2009, 22:15 »
The car does not know if the brake is pressed so to disengage the clutch.

Put it in N. You can hear the difference. If you cant shift to D then back into N a few times until you do.

Would you hold a manual on the biting point at every stop?

N for medium stop periods, P for long periods with the brakes off if you have been driving hard (reduce brake wear/warping) leave it in D if you are only stopping for very short periods.

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Re: DSG - at lights.....
« Reply #19 on: 05 May 2009, 17:26 »
Sorry JulesV6 but the car does know when the brake is engaged when at a stop!  Try this comparison:

Foot on brake..........clutch is reduced to bare minimum..........practically no demand from engine.
Take foot off brake...........momentary lapse of time before clutch engages more and car starts to move forward.