Arch rubbing...how much is it going to cost...?

[Asbo Sovfinger]

Notice me rear passenger side rubs/makes a nasty noise when going over reasonable size dips/troughs.  More apparent with passengers in the back but happened with 2 of us yesterday and the ride over what admittedly is a shocking bit of road was a bit tetchy.  Is this likely to be a knackered shock/damper and if so any ideas of the damage to my wallet?

[Mikester]

I dont get what you are saying?

I originaly thought you meant the car was lowered and tyre is rubbing the arch, but now im not so sure?

A nackered shock or damper when pushed down will go up and down a few times when released. Where as an ok one will just go back up to the position it was quickly.

[Asbo Sovfinger]

Sorry, got the hump today so just bashing out nonsense on the keyboard 

I don't think the car is lowered (recently bought and don't have much in the way of paperwork), certainly not by much if it is. 

I've tried the push test and it doesn't seem to wobble, but the scraping noise is quite apparent when you hit a dip.

The cars on 205/50 tyres, 16" I believe...can you spot the noob?

[Mikester]

if the car is lowered enough for it to bottom out the suspension, like mine does, you wont be able to get your hand in the wheel arch, or under the car sills, and will barely get over a speed bump without scrapping the bumper. lol.

So we can count that out.

Dont think its the suspension bottoming.

Is it metal onto the road scrapping? Have you checked to see if any of the exhaust is hanging low? Broken? Noises?

[Asbo Sovfinger]

Not lowered then LOL, it doesn't sound like metally exhaust type scraping and almost definitely coming from rear wheel arch (can't quite drive from back seat obviously).  I'll have to have a proper push and stuff in the company of someone who'll be able to tell me whether it's bouncing and I'm just not seeing it i.e. someone with more than 3/4 weeks car ownership under their belt for instance LOL

[Paul86S2]

If you have 16 inch wheels the correct tyre size should b3 205 45 16, if 15 inch you should have 205 50 15.

If you have 205 50 16 fitted your diameter will be about 25mm larger than standard which could cause you problems but probably not if the car isn't lowered.

If you have non standard wheels fitted the offset of the wheel can cause you problems if it is wildly differant to standard. Offset is usually stamped on the inside of the wheel spokes or sometimes around the tyre valve.

As Mikester says if the damper is shot it should just make the car a lot more bouncy and not bottom out. A really sagging spring or broken spring may cause you problems.

The exhaust goes over the rear axle beam and can knock which usually sounds like its coming from the rear wheel arch. Try grabbing the rear tailpipe and give it a good wobble side to side and up and down. If you can get a knock that will probably be your problem, and a very cheap fix with some new exhaust rubber hangers.

Paul

[spunkymonkey]

plus do we know the et of the wheels?

[Asbo Sovfinger]

plus do we know the et of the wheels?

et?

So Maybe the wheels is wrong then huh?  Sounds much more exepnsive than sorting out a shocks problem.  Anyone hear the money pit calling?

[Mikester]

If the wheels were wrong, wouldnt the problem be there more often than just going over bumps.

I would go with the ehxuast and axel issue? Is it a standard exhaust?