what DON'T you like about your Golf?

[Jkctr]

exactly my point phil, my mate has a focus st3  bought it 18 months ago for 19k was offered 10 for it last week on a 57 plate lol
golf is legendry ok its got a few minor faults that we can live with but havnt all hardcore hot hatches 

I would hardly call any mk5 a hardcore hothatch 

Hothatch


Hardcore hothatch

[matthewsimone]

what would you call hardcore then in the world of recent modern hot hatches ? 

[celica]

Depreciation   

ed30 might hold better over the years, but the mkVI must hit these hard

[lookoutsmudger]

BRAKES...

feel ok MOST of the time but push it hard and they start to feel soft and spongy. Will be looking to sort them out soon once i've decided what to go for.

Apart from that i'm very happy with it. Just had it for a week and cant seem to find any major faults. Niggles yes, but thats it 

[Jkctr]

what would you call hardcore then in the world of recent modern hot hatches ? 

See the pic

 

[matthewsimone]

my mate has one jules and its far from hardcore mate and my other mate has the clio 197 f1 and again that is no more hardcore than the gti, the only difference is that they are built by dodgy frogs and they depreciate quicker than you can pay the finance off on them lol  take a look on youtube at the topgear hot hatch shootout with golf, vxr and megane 225 etc

[Jkctr]

Your mate has an r26r, the one with no rear seats, no sound deadening, carbon bonnet and roll cage. And its no more hardcore than a gti 

I want what you are on mate!!

[DaveJ]

Creak from the dash just above the radio.

Mine does that too, thats about the only thing at the moment that is annoying me, only had it 3 months.

[matthewsimone]

im talking about everyday hothatch road cars you know mate slightly practical etc not stripped out and virtually turned into a rally car, next you will be saying the v6 clio is hardcore lol you know the one that wont go round a corner properly well it must be hardcore as it is stripped out etc plus are you seriously suggesting that you would part with your cash with the frog before the gti or r32 or ed30, i want what you are on bud 

[Jkctr]

If i wanted a fast FWD hatch i would happily buy the R26R! Will be more fun than any gti (or any other hatch inc the R32) will be (no matter how remapped) I can think of better cars for the money that will do a better job though.

The R26R is an everyday hatch, its a special edition like the ED30 thats all. Hell, my old ctr was hardcore compared to the GTI, the only luxury was aircon, electric windows and heated mirrors were introduced on the facelift!

The V6 is not hardcore, the mk2 was also much better at handling than the mk1.

Calling the GTI hardcore is a ridiculous statement, its a comfy cruiser with loads of luxuries, large alloy wheels and alot of weight!

Defenition of hardcore hothatch:

Low weight, good power (nice bhp/ton figure)
minimal options
bare interior
purpose built seats for support over comfort
LSD
minimal electronics (less to go wrong and less weight)

Basically everything the GTI isnt (or the focus st, vxr, civic type r, r32, cupra r, cooper s etc)