Author Topic: Golf mk3 16v decat pipe!!!1  (Read 6165 times)

Offline Len

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Re: Golf mk3 16v decat pipe!!!1
« Reply #10 on: 10 March 2009, 11:38 »
Sure do! I know because had to renew the CAT and it was an absolute beggar to get the sensor out of the old one! nearly gave up on it!
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Re: Golf mk3 16v decat pipe!!!1
« Reply #11 on: 10 March 2009, 11:40 »
perhaps because I undid the CAT first and consequently couldnt get any leverage on the nut!
So meant I had to re-bolt up the CAT before I could undo the sensor!
Things like that stick in the mind! :angry:
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Re: Golf mk3 16v decat pipe!!!1
« Reply #12 on: 10 March 2009, 13:19 »
i fitted a de-cat to my 8 valve last year. seems to be a little more responsive and has a slightly deeper note to it! perhaps thats why i think its got more grunt! haha

lambda probe was pretty straight forward to remove but think it had been changed at some point! is alot easier to undo with the cat fitted.

had mot a month ago and flew straight through. either the guy was useless at MOTs or the fact i bought him a coffee and had a chat with him before telling him how many people had given his garage rave reviews and he was ace blah blah blah, sucking up in other words!

question tho? - do they fail a car without a cat because it wont pass the emissions? or do they just have a look and if it hasnt got one then fail?

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Re: Golf mk3 16v decat pipe!!!1
« Reply #13 on: 10 March 2009, 16:34 »
If the car should have a CAT as standard fitting then its an automatic fail without one!
You were lucky!
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Re: Golf mk3 16v decat pipe!!!1
« Reply #14 on: 10 March 2009, 16:53 »
If the car should have a CAT as standard fitting then its an automatic fail without one!
You were lucky!

i know it is a fail, but does it show up because the emissions will be higher or doesnt the CAT make any difference to the emissions?

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Re: Golf mk3 16v decat pipe!!!1
« Reply #15 on: 10 March 2009, 17:33 »
It should be very obvious to a trained mechanic (MOT Tester) that the CAT is missing!
They should do a very thorough check under the car!

Nothing at all to do with the emissions!
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Re: Golf mk3 16v decat pipe!!!1
« Reply #16 on: 10 March 2009, 17:40 »
If the car passes the emissions test without the cat fitted that is ok. It is only a fail if it fails the emmissions test. Emmissions tests after 1994 (I think) are based on cars with cats fitted as standard and are therefore much lower, so pretty near impossible to pass without the cat fitted.

The 16v cat doesnt look to be very restrictive, I have a de-cat fitted to my 16v and it does appear to make a differance to the pick up, and seems to rev a bit freer throughout the range.

Ess Three who posts on here did a comparison on the rolling road with his and didn't find a great deal of differance. He also did dyno tests on standard and after market exhausts like miltek with combinations of cat, de-cat, and race cell cat and he didn't find a great deal of differance in any of it, I seem to remember 2-3 hp max.

If you want to fit a decat the cheapest I found was the raceland one from Hottuning on ebay (put in a low offer), this comes with the lambda sensor hole. Or get a cheap secondhand cat and rod the core out of it. Having a second lambda sensor makes the swap easier at mot time if you can leave it in the cat / decat and just unplug it at the wiring end.

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Re: Golf mk3 16v decat pipe!!!1
« Reply #17 on: 10 March 2009, 23:16 »
It should be very obvious to a trained mechanic (MOT Tester) that the CAT is missing!
They should do a very thorough check under the car!

Nothing at all to do with the emissions!
Seems to be a dodgy area.
Spoke to a mate who does mots tonight. He says some mot testers will fail you for not having a cat fitted, but the guidelines say the exhaust system needs to be "in good condition" only, and passing the emissions test is a case of pass or fail. So as long as the exhaust is ok condition wise and the car passes the emissions test there is nothing specific in the guidelines to fail you on.

I know when I spoke to my mot place all he said was my car wouldn't pass the emissions test without the cat, so back on it went.

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Re: Golf mk3 16v decat pipe!!!1
« Reply #18 on: 11 March 2009, 08:15 »
Sounds like a collasal ball ache, I think I will invest my money somewhere better then.

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Re: Golf mk3 16v decat pipe!!!1
« Reply #19 on: 11 March 2009, 09:45 »
I have had problems in the past with other cars and I was told if its a standard fitting on the car it MUST be there and in working order!
I had a fail on my old Pug 405 because the abs wasnt working! Now that doesnt get activated during the MOT brake test so why should it be a fail? Because it was a standard fitting on that car and wasnt working!
Same principle applies here with CAT!
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