what does this badge/sign mean

[dTEA]

probs more to do with the goth kids these days linking it to anything german tbh...load a crap and nasty

[twistedblack69]

Lol so goth is now from German descendance?? I think it's more bikers than anyone that incorporate it into their image

[boo]

it was used  long befor hitler got his mits on it
the prussians used it as a medal in the 1800s
a friend of a friend who lives in germany is writeing a book
on the iron cross some of the version of are as valuble as a vc
it was used a lot by early amrican hot rodders

[Komenda]

It's the order of St John and was used by the Crusader States between the 12th and 15th Centuries. Over the Centuries it has evolved but Hitler ressurected it to try and bring back the bravery of the Prussian Warriors.

It is traditionally a Christian symbol though.

[DarnPB]

Similar to the Swastica. That was originally a Hindu/Budist religeous symbol, bastardised by Hitler.
Hitler was very supersticious and very much into the occult, which is probably why he adopted these symbols into his own purpose.

I also think that the Goths originated from Germany. You should go to Leipzig, old eastern Germany and look at the architechture there, as well as the people. I would safely say that between 40 and 50 percent of the people there are Goths.

[theshrew]

So all this might be true but what has this got to do with VW's  ?

[xAx]

Are you lot talking about the Goths as a people? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goth

or goth rock people? And what have either of them got to do with these crosses 

[Komenda]

So all this might be true but what has this got to do with VW's  ?

German and looks cool innit 

[Neaty]

So all this might be true but what has this got to do with VW's  ?

You beat me too it.

[theshrew]

So were all Nazi Goth emo's then lol