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Offline Merlin

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DSG - Auto learn is rubbish!
« on: 25 February 2009, 22:44 »
Calling all Engineers: I've noticed that post 'normal' service (circa 10 & 20Km non DSG) the DSG is particularly crisp and performs well. The Torque converter engages strongly and the cars throttle response appears crisp and lively. However after a couple of weeks of normal driving the DSG appears to get lazy....the torque converter is slow to engage on acceleration and de-celleration making driving far less enjoyable.

I've proved that this is DSG control/ ECU related by power cycling the car and the result is a return of super crisp performance and zero DSG Alzheimers.

Does anyone know how to stop the DSG auto learning as it's rubbish.

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Re: DSG - Auto learn is rubbish!
« Reply #1 on: 25 February 2009, 22:55 »
I find a short drive using full throttle in lower gears restores the dsg sharpness.
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Re: DSG - Auto learn is rubbish!
« Reply #2 on: 25 February 2009, 22:58 »
You are driving way too slow for the car you bought.  Speed up man.  The sharpness after a service is because the mechanics have thrashed your car on a test run.  The fuzzly logic learns fast.
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Re: DSG - Auto learn is rubbish!
« Reply #3 on: 25 February 2009, 23:11 »
You are driving way too slow for the car you bought.  Speed up man.  The sharpness after a service is because the mechanics have thrashed your car on a test run.  The fuzzly logic learns fast.

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Re: DSG - Auto learn is rubbish!
« Reply #4 on: 25 February 2009, 23:20 »
I do think Merlin has a valid point here. I have found that the DSG system seems to re-learn a new driving style very quickly. I'd prefer it to remember a style and keep it that way.

For example my drive home from work begins with getting out of city traffic and ends with country roads. The system learns the more sedate driving style around town in amongst traffic and then takes a while to re-adjust when I hit the country roads (changing early etc etc at first). Whereas I'd prefer it to keep the country roads style of gear change for even the city driving. Having said that, I then might get even more apauling MPG readings for town driving.

One way I found myself overcoming this would be to use the paddle's round town but then what good is "D"???

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Re: DSG - Auto learn is rubbish!
« Reply #5 on: 25 February 2009, 23:31 »
Hi Pazz,

Exactly... How do we fix the DSG control in just reset mode?
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Re: DSG - Auto learn is rubbish!
« Reply #6 on: 26 February 2009, 09:08 »
Cant you just use D for normal driving, then use the paddles or 'S' for your country lanes etc?
Or do you still feel a more sloppy DSG even in S or using paddles?

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Re: DSG - Auto learn is rubbish!
« Reply #7 on: 26 February 2009, 09:36 »
You are driving way too slow for the car you bought.  Speed up man.  The sharpness after a service is because the mechanics have thrashed your car on a test run.  The fuzzly logic learns fast.


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Re: DSG - Auto learn is rubbish!
« Reply #8 on: 26 February 2009, 09:46 »
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On the face of it the auto-learning feature seems somewhat unnecessary - Or is it? Perhaps it's actually very good that it fine-tunes itself to your individual style of driving. Being more patient while it learns is a small price to pay IMO.

I know what to expect and I'm patient - I don't have to wait very long anyway.
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Re: DSG - Auto learn is rubbish!
« Reply #9 on: 26 February 2009, 09:53 »
Try a DSG software upgrade.

http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=105907.0

No interest in the group buy, but they should still offer a discount if you mention where you saw the offer. Some other companies have dsg developments in the pipeline but afaik this is the only one available in the UK right now.