Edition 30 first service issue

[Teutonic_Tamer]

Sorry but I wouldn't touch any car that hasn't had an annual/12k service. Forget Long Life, it's just something dreamed up for company cars to cut running costs. T&D all the way for me, regardles of make and model.

As a second owner, you should ensure the car has been well looked after, the first owner or the dealer won't give a toss as, he's either sold it on or they're only interested in your cash. Plenty out there - make sure you get the right one

Cass   

Strange you should say that.... My first service light came on at around 10000miles which I thought was very soon but tbh I do alot of short (quick) journeys. When I spoke to the dealership about booking it in, I was told that the service program was meant to be on longlife but had obviously been put on the wrong setting (T&D). At the time I wasnt really familiar with the different settings so took their word for it.

The car then had to be booked into the dealership it came from so they could change the setting to Longlife. It was then another 11000miles before the service light came on again.

Foook me - that is bad.  That is yet another example of my concern that genuine franchised main VW dealers who simply do NOT understand fully the LongLife regime! 

[Teutonic_Tamer]

had my first service on my ed30 at 11000 miles on long life and my second at 22000, would it have been any different on t and d. its still getting an oil change every 11000 ish, dont see the problem myself.

If it were on T&D, then the miles would have been 1000 sooner.  But more crucially, by being on the LongLife regime, it is actually costing you much more to service than if it were correctly set to T&D.

[Teutonic_Tamer]

My Ed30 is going in for it's first service on Wednesday... the dash says "Service in 100 miles" mileage... 17,200

I will do between 35 and 40k miles this year the majority of which is motorway... LL for me all the way

But do you take the engine above 3,000 rpm, or generally give the car some beans?  Because if you do, then LL is NOT for you.  Take a gander at this thread: http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=65779

[Cass]

Sorry but I wouldn't touch any car that hasn't had an annual/12k service

In other words you wouldn't buy a car if it had been set to longlife when new?

Simple snswer - No.

UNLESS it was actually serviced at (or very near) 12 months and 10k miles. Anything significantly higher I would avoid and I wouldn't touch any car that has gone significantly past 12 months without having had a service. Old school I guess 

For the record I have been on T&D from new and my car is run on LL oil because it's better quality. I supply it to the dealer for servicing. My car is now 2 1/2 years old and has done just under 15k miles (yes, I know - I need to get out more - France in July will put a few more on ), it's been serviced twice at each 12 months of ownership and that will continue as long as I have it. Not considering selling it, but I'm known to be a bit anal - my mates say they would NEVER sell me a car, but they would ALWAYS buy one from me

Cass

[R32UK]

  So my car probably was crying out to be serviced at about 10k.. which sounds about right for the way I drive. But didnt get one until 21k!!!

No wonder it felt like a new car after a service

Next time I buy a car I will defo be wanting it to be set to t&d.

[oatz]

Is there any way of checking without using VAGcom  ie via the highline or such whether a car is set to longlife or t&d?

Just making sure a car advertised as being on longlife hasn't been manually reset to t&d by a dodgy owner or the like to stop the light from coming on

[Teutonic_Tamer]

Is there any way of checking without using VAGcom  ie via the highline or such whether a car is set to longlife or t&d?

You don't actually need the highline.  Just manually call up the service reminder, make a note of the miles due and the days due.  Then look in the service book, and see when it was last serviced.  Then work out the total days from the last service up-to today, and then add that to the days due.  Do the same for the mileages.  Then if the total days, including those days anticipated by the SID exceed 365, or if the miles exceed 10k miles, then it is on LongLife.

Just making sure a car advertised as being on longlife hasn't been manually reset to t&d by a dodgy owner or the like to stop the light from coming on

Huh - oh, I see what you mean.

But you really need to get the service book out, and do the above calculations.  But by going from what you said in the first post, then they would have needed to manually reset it about 8,000 miles ago - because the T&D is NOT a flexible service system.  The T&D simply counts down the days from 365, and the miles from 9,600 - and whichever reaches zero first is when the next service is due.  It is only the LongLife service which is truely variable.

[Teutonic_Tamer]

So my car probably was crying out to be serviced at about 10k.. which sounds about right for the way I drive. But didnt get one until 21k!!!

No wonder it felt like a new car after a service

Next time I buy a car I will defo be wanting it to be set to t&d.

You really ought to think about doing your own interim 6monthly or 5k miles oil & filter changes.  21k miles for any petrol engine, especially a relatively highly tuned motor like the VR6, is more than cringeworthy! 

[Edition30]

Just doing a search for the price of a first service, £35 for dealer service...bargain I say.

Almost 11k on the clock and its 8 months old. That sound like im on the T&D regime??

[ub7rm]

Just doing a search for the price of a first service, £35 for dealer service...bargain I say.

  Bargain alright.... I would have thought the oil alone would cost that.