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Re: New tyres time..
« Reply #20 on: 25 February 2009, 13:53 »
Falken FK452, yep.
I like these cheaper brands, they are usually great tyres at bargain prices.
Nothing worse than putting on an expensive soft tyre and have it wear out in a few thousand miles.  You can end up driving around with too little tread depth to cope with rain whilst you eke out the last few miles.

People sware by expensive Toyo Proxies.  I used them once and found them to be a very mediocre tyre, spoiling the steering of my Alfa.

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Re: New tyres time..
« Reply #21 on: 25 February 2009, 16:17 »
Used both the Assys and PS2's. I feel from my experience that the Assy is a better wet tyre without doubt, equal dry tyre and longer treadlife.

Had 3 PS2's suffer sidewall damage in the form of cuts from potholes, particularly when it was wet, and for this reason I would not purchase again.

So my vote is with the Assys. 

For those who are sick and tired (no pun) at premium brand tyre prices, the Kumho Ecsta KU31's are worth looking at. I have run them on my M3, along with PS1 and PS2 and now Assys, and without doubt the only thing budget about them is the price, they display better wet grip than both the Mich and Goodyears, similar dry grip and good treadlife, most people just will not try becuase of the name. But loads of EVO/Scooby/M3 drivers have switched and rave over them.

Not really heard much about the kumhos tbh.. would be interesting to have a read if you have a link.

Good to know that its not just the assyms that have a problem with the side wall. Would definately agree with the fact that the assyms seem to last alot longer than the PS2's which seem to be a softer compound. Will just have to remember that the Assyms seem to take a few thousand miles to wear in :grin:

Who says PS2s have a softer compound than the F1 Asymmetrics?  :huh:
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Re: New tyres time..
« Reply #22 on: 25 February 2009, 16:29 »
The doubters and 'will not touch with a barge pole brigade' are often flushed out, when they admit to never trying a tyre, rather they just go on brand snobbery and price, but those who have treid the tyres, I have seen a very high satisfaction level, 9 out of 10 saying they are very happy, and this mirrors my findings, I got my friend to switch from PS2's to Kumhos on his M3 before Christmas, and he is very pleased, and he really rags it, and his overall view is fantastic wet weather performance, not had enough warm days yet to form much else of an opinion.

I agree there are some peeps who may have their own prejudices, and who never actually try out a tyre (but that doesn't apply to me).

But one thing is absolutely certain, IF tyres like Kumhos or Eagle F1 Asymmetrics were as good as a few minor individuals 'claim' - then why are they not offered as standard OEM equipment on high performance cars such as the Bugatti Veyron, Audi RS models, or Porsches (which ALL have the PS2 as OEM standard fitments)?  :rolleyes:  Both Porsche and Audi RS cars make no compromises - particularly in 'handling' where tyres are without doubt THE most crucial component.

The only reason that Goodyears, and the majority of the other tyres mentioned in this thread are cheaper than the PS2s - is simply because they are not as good as the PS2.  And I am not just talking about actual 'performance' of the tyre, but also about the 'aftercare' of the actual tyre companies.  The 'customer service' from both Michelin and Continental is light-years better than other 'premium' brand companies, including Goodyear-Dunlop!

As always though, ETTO.
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Re: New tyres time..
« Reply #23 on: 25 February 2009, 16:33 »




Dont ask me how I spotted this.... purely off chance :grin: :grin: :grin:

Fcuk me!  :shocked:  That is actually worse sidewall damage than occurs on the notorious Pirelli P-Zero Rossos - and they are known to have a 'weak carcass'.  Is there any tell-tale damage to the actuall rubber on the sidewalls near that bulge?

And you had been driving on a tyre like that?  :shocked:  Did you not notice any 'feedback' through the steering wheel?  :huh:
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Re: New tyres time..
« Reply #24 on: 25 February 2009, 16:36 »
Think I would get Goodyear to make an opinion on that, it's extreme, looks like the carcass beads have let go

Nope.  The beads are actually completely intact, and perfectly serviceable.  It is actually the sidewall carcass 'plies' which have let go - in a serious manner.  R32UK was a very lucky boy - that could have caused a serious blow out!
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Re: New tyres time..
« Reply #25 on: 25 February 2009, 16:41 »
What's the sportcackkkk???
Continental Sport Contact

I see.  My recently purchased GTI is on Dunlop SP SPORT 9000 225/45 R17 ZR.  Anybody got an opinion on these?  I haven't driven it on anything else, so I've no frame of reference.

Actually, the sportcackkk are actually the Dunlop SpotMaxx, which were OEM fitments on some 2006-2008 GTIs.  :sick:  :sick:  :sick:  :sick:

Not a very good tyre.  Quite hard tread rubber compound (meaning they don't grip), a weak carcass - and they actually suffer badly from 'static deformation' on certain cars, GTI included.  They are basically a 'half-way house' (read: botch job) development of the Dunlop ShyteMaxx SportMaxx, with half the tread pattern being directional, and the other half being asymmetric.  :sick:

I was going to recommend some Michelin Pilot Sport PS2s, but noticed you are on 17" rims, and the PS2s don't actually go down to that lowly size!  :grin:
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Re: New tyres time..
« Reply #26 on: 25 February 2009, 16:44 »
Just popped into see my tyre fitter as they havent arrived yet. He has told me that he has the GSD2???coming in. As they have replaced the F1's.

Just wondering if this is the case?? :huh:

No, no NOOOO.  They are incredibly old stock, and are actually directional tyres, rather than the asymmetrics which you currently have.  Avoid.
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Re: New tyres time..
« Reply #27 on: 25 February 2009, 16:45 »
A set of wheels I just bought came with FULLRUN tyres :grin:

Made in China, worth about 20p. How they ever got TUV and DOT approval I'll never know.. but they have. Apparently 'drifters' love them for their ability to break traction easily (especially when fitted backwards) and the masses of white smoke they produce. Might have to slap them on and go do some donuts on the maccy d's carpark, innit.

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Re: New tyres time..
« Reply #28 on: 25 February 2009, 16:52 »
The suggestion of Kumho KU31's is interesting.
My past experience of using Kumhos to replace oem Pirellis, Michelins etc on quick cars is entirely positive.
They grip, are tough, wear well and are great value.

I'll try them next time.  (at £67 each you can replace them with plenty of tread left on)

Interstingly shyte.  :sick:  :sick:  :sick:

I have tried Kumhos on a Polo - fcuking useless.  Break traction very easily in a straight line.  Lock up very easily under braking.  And they were very scary when cornering - you turn into a corner (which I know like the back of my hand) - they turn in, turn in - then suddenly without ANY warning - slide sideways - virtually hitting the opposite kerb.  Tried this on other corners (just to make sure there wasn't a diesel spill or sommat) - but every time I turned in - sudden and complete loss of lateral grip.  Kumho = dangerous tyres.  I also tried Kumhos on a Tiguan (a Golf5 4motion on stilts  :wink:) - and again, identical problems.  Those Kumhos really totally ruined the dynamics of both cars!  :sick:

Firestone 'Fuel Saver' tyres are wayyyyy better than those Kumhos, and the Firestones were utter shyte compared to say Continental EcoContact or Michelin Energy.
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Re: New tyres time..
« Reply #29 on: 25 February 2009, 16:53 »
What's the sportcackkkk???
Continental Sport Contact

I see.  My recently purchased GTI is on Dunlop SP SPORT 9000 225/45 R17 ZR.  Anybody got an opinion on these?  I haven't driven it on anything else, so I've no frame of reference.

Actually, the sportcackkk are actually the Dunlop SpotMaxx, which were OEM fitments on some 2006-2008 GTIs.  :sick:  :sick:  :sick:  :sick:

Not a very good tyre.  Quite hard tread rubber compound (meaning they don't grip), a weak carcass - and they actually suffer badly from 'static deformation' on certain cars, GTI included.  They are basically a 'half-way house' (read: botch job) development of the Dunlop ShyteMaxx SportMaxx, with half the tread pattern being directional, and the other half being asymmetric.  :sick:

I was going to recommend some Michelin Pilot Sport PS2s, but noticed you are on 17" rims, and the PS2s don't actually go down to that lowly size!  :grin:

So what are these then?  http://ssl.delti.com/cgi-bin/rshop.pl?details=Ordern&cart_id=12998162.124.24141&typ=397798&ranzahl=4&Breite=225&Herst=Michelin&Quer=45&Felge=17&Speed=W&weiter=0&kategorie=6&Ang_pro_Seite=10&Transport=P&F_F=&dsco=124&Achse=&LoadRange=