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Re: manual or dsg
« Reply #10 on: 18 February 2009, 20:02 »
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If you drive around in D-mode, the DSG will seem hesitant in many situations but the point is that you can instantly flick into Manual and use the gears in exactly the same way as a conventional Manual.

I accept that DSG isn't to everyone's taste but it's an option and if you are prepared to adapt and learn its many, many options, it's something you'll probably always want in a future car.

i want a gearbox to do two things, change gears when i want to, and change them quickly. you don't get this with dsg.

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Re: manual or dsg
« Reply #11 on: 18 February 2009, 20:34 »
Dsg dsg dsg dsg dsg dsg dsg dsg dsg dsg dsg...... Unless it screws up like in less than a few percent of cases else dsg dsg dsg and if you don't like it ..... Learn to drive it  :smug:

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Re: manual or dsg
« Reply #12 on: 18 February 2009, 20:39 »
i want a gearbox to do two things, change gears when i want to, and change them quickly. you don't get this with dsg.

DSG has the quickest & smoothest gear changes possible doesnt it?
You can still change gears when you want to if you use the paddles etc....

From the way I see it, DSG is a love it or hate it kind of thing. For those who like Auto's, its a great compromise and you get a bit of both. For those who prefer a manual, the the GTI is still offered in a manual config. Its really just down to what you prefer, and your driving style. Just because you prefer one, doesnt mean the other is rubbish.

Im not aiming this directly at you Sharpie, its just a general comment ;)

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Re: manual or dsg
« Reply #13 on: 18 February 2009, 20:40 »
Could someone explain more about the 'D' mode, and why its hesitant in certain situations according to your driving style??

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Re: manual or dsg
« Reply #14 on: 18 February 2009, 20:50 »
Could someone explain more about the 'D' mode, and why its hesitant in certain situations according to your driving style??

If you are accelerating in 4th for example, it will have 5th ready for the change up. However if you suddenly slow instead it takes it a split second longer to get 3rd as it did not have that one ready.

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Re: manual or dsg
« Reply #15 on: 18 February 2009, 20:54 »
Could someone explain more about the 'D' mode, and why its hesitant in certain situations according to your driving style??

'D' behaves more like a standard auto in terms of the speed of the changes. 'S' mode sharpens/quickens everything up and enables use of the paddles.

I have a manual but enjoy driving DSG. I just felt manual was better for me as I know I would get lazy and drive around in 'D' most of the time. Not why I bought a GTI  :wink:

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Re: manual or dsg
« Reply #16 on: 18 February 2009, 21:00 »
It's never hesitant ..... In my experience IME? Zat a new acroynm? Prolly not ,....

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Re: manual or dsg
« Reply #17 on: 18 February 2009, 21:02 »
If you are accelerating in 4th for example, it will have 5th ready for the change up. However if you suddenly slow instead it takes it a split second longer to get 3rd as it did not have that one ready.

Makes perfect sense.
So say you do brake slowly, and you drop down to 3rd, will it get ready with 4th gear - so in other words will it be a little hesitant with every gear you drop down until you come to a complete stop??

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Re: manual or dsg
« Reply #18 on: 18 February 2009, 21:07 »
Split second? LOL yep that'll be right.... Still way quicker than the ol' manual fred flintstone method :-))  he says deliberately squirting fuel ok the flames of the old classic debate..reborn.

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Re: manual or dsg
« Reply #19 on: 18 February 2009, 21:33 »
If you are accelerating in 4th for example, it will have 5th ready for the change up. However if you suddenly slow instead it takes it a split second longer to get 3rd as it did not have that one ready.

Makes perfect sense.
So say you do brake slowly, and you drop down to 3rd, will it get ready with 4th gear - so in other words will it be a little hesitant with every gear you drop down until you come to a complete stop??

not sure what I said was a good example in retrospect  :wink:

although I am guessing it has to make a constant judgement on whether you are accelerating or slowing based on many factors, it does not do the change until it is ready so there is no hesitantly as such and therefore any delay is invisible. The only sort of thing that will make it truly hesitant is braking hard from a reasonable speed to a standstill then imediately mashing the accelerator to set off again, although it pulls in the clutches to stop a stall there is a delay while it gets 1st.