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Re: Regal DSG software - group buy interest gauging.
« Reply #10 on: 14 February 2009, 19:32 »
Quote from: Hurdy on 14 February 2009, 19:15
Rev limits to 7,100 revs would be very beneficial to a DSG ED30. The K04 turbo is capable of making more power above the 6k limit you are talking about. Manuals continue making power over the 6k limit, but the DSG prepares for changing gear and inhibits power development over 6k in readiness for an upchange and disengagement of the clutchpack. Raising the change level means that you free up an extra 1k of revs for the power to be fully utilised.

....Would you expect any extra stresses on the clutches by freeing up revs for more power?
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Re: Regal DSG software - group buy interest gauging.
« Reply #11 on: 14 February 2009, 19:33 »
In the example I linked to they only ran to about 6700/6800RPM. Sadly it doesnt say if it's a manual or DSG though. But if its a manual then I would be wanting to know why they only went to 6700/6800RPM???
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Re: Regal DSG software - group buy interest gauging.
« Reply #12 on: 14 February 2009, 20:19 »
Quote from: RedRobin on 14 February 2009, 19:32
Quote from: Hurdy on 14 February 2009, 19:15
Rev limits to 7,100 revs would be very beneficial to a DSG ED30. The K04 turbo is capable of making more power above the 6k limit you are talking about. Manuals continue making power over the 6k limit, but the DSG prepares for changing gear and inhibits power development over 6k in readiness for an upchange and disengagement of the clutchpack. Raising the change level means that you free up an extra 1k of revs for the power to be fully utilised.

....Would you expect any extra stresses on the clutches by freeing up revs for more power?

Obviously you would have more stresses, but it is more the torque what is the issue with DSG boxes and by peak power at high revs, the torque has dropped off considerably. :smiley:
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Re: Regal DSG software - group buy interest gauging.
« Reply #13 on: 14 February 2009, 20:21 »
Quote from: pazz on 14 February 2009, 19:33
In the example I linked to they only ran to about 6700/6800RPM. Sadly it doesnt say if it's a manual or DSG though. But if its a manual then I would be wanting to know why they only went to 6700/6800RPM???

John's car is a manual and I was there when he ran that. He was stock at the time and the DSG remap is more akin to be paired up with a modified car like mine that is running more bolt on applications that allow power to be continually developed higher in the rev range. The most noticeable bolt on is the HPFP. :smiley:
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Re: Regal DSG software - group buy interest gauging.
« Reply #14 on: 14 February 2009, 20:41 »
Quote from: Hurdy on 14 February 2009, 20:21
The most noticeable bolt on is the HPFP. :smiley:
No, it's the nut behind the steering wheel...   :wink:
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Re: Regal DSG software - group buy interest gauging.
« Reply #15 on: 14 February 2009, 21:00 »
Quote from: bacillus on 14 February 2009, 20:41
Quote from: Hurdy on 14 February 2009, 20:21
The most noticeable bolt on is the HPFP. :smiley:
No, it's the nut behind the steering wheel...   :wink:

.... :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: - You've obviously met Hurdy! :evil:
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Re: Regal DSG software - group buy interest gauging.
« Reply #16 on: 14 February 2009, 21:04 »
Actually I have...
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Re: Regal DSG software - group buy interest gauging.
« Reply #17 on: 14 February 2009, 21:11 »
Ah right well I see how the stock FP could run into trouble fuelling for the higher rev's. But as for a HPFP, I'm not planning on modding to that sort of level. Breathing mods is as far as I think I'll go. Would be interesting to see the A/F ratio's at those high RPM's though on the stock pump.

But still, I'm very interested in the way the DSG remap would improve the kick-down system.
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Re: Regal DSG software - group buy interest gauging.
« Reply #18 on: 14 February 2009, 21:37 »
Quote from: pazz on 14 February 2009, 21:11
But still, I'm very interested in the way the DSG remap would improve the kick-down system.

....I have to say that I've never quite understood why there is a kick-down system on the DSG - Throttle plus paddleshift is instant and superfast....And reliable!
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Re: Regal DSG software - group buy interest gauging.
« Reply #19 on: 14 February 2009, 22:20 »
Quote from: pazz on 14 February 2009, 21:11
Ah right well I see how the stock FP could run into trouble fuelling for the higher rev's. .
The stock HPFP should not run into trouble at high revs, it's the low/mid range where it can't provide enough fuel to keep up the fuel rail pressure.
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