Regal DSG software - group buy interest gauging.

[topher]

Some of you may be aware I've been following HPA's DSG software flashes for some time and have been in constant contact with them regarding UK sales. It seems we're still a long way from that happening but UK company Regal Autosport have released their very own DSG software upgrade and Stage 1 is now available to the public.

The advantages of the Stage 1 software are:

* Raised Rev limits in excess of 7000RPM
* Shorter reaction time on Manual shifts
* Two stage throttle sensitivity for differentiation between hard throttle use and Full throttle.

Flashed through the OBD port this is an entirely un-intrusive upgrade which will work along side any current remap you already have.

Future developments of the software will include raised torque limits of the DSG box with higher clamping forces and improved launch control functionality.

As a rough ball park figure to gauge interest, Regal are willing to offer the Stage 1 DSG upgrade to a golfgti.co.uk group buy at a price of £350 (Normal retail price £450) if 10 people purchase, with the possibility of further savings if even more members wish to upgrade.

As a side note, Regal also provide their own in-house ECU remaps which would also be available at a discounted price if purchased at the same time as the DSG upgrade, but for now lets gauge the interest in the DSG upgrade.

A representative of Regal has joined the forum and will be able to answer any further queries regarding the software in this thread. So.. names down people!

[pazz]

I wouldnt mind asking a few questions...

The advantages of the Stage 1 software are:

* Raised Rev limits in excess of 7000RPM
* Shorter reaction time on Manual shifts
* Two stage throttle sensitivity for differentiation between hard throttle use and Full throttle.

Why would rev limits in excess of 7000RPM be beneficial? If you take a stock power curve for the 2.0 TFSi it tails off well before 7000RPM. Take a looky here at an Edition 30 on the rollers http://www.johnoldfield.dsl.pipex.com/images/weblog/std_ed30_awesome_june2008_dyno_large.jpg

I'd be very interested to hear about the two stage thorttle sensivity as I dont really think much to the stock "kick-down" system. When it says two-stage can you explain that anymore? This is where imo the DSG system could be improved - it's use of the throttle position sensor.

[bobotheclown]

just out of curiosity, does anyone know how much a new DSG gear box replacement is?

[topher]

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[JonnyG]

Comparing it with the HPA map, I'd be interested to know :

1.  If the rev limiter is upped to 7000rpm do you need to have an ECU remap as well ?  as I thought the standard ECU map limited the revs as well ?

2.  What exactly does the two stage throttle response do and how does it work in practice ?  Does it still kickdown in all DSG modes ?

3.  Are there any reviews / test drives yet ?

4.  Is Launch Control changed at all ?

5.  Can the rev limit rpm value be customised to any customer chosen value ?

Cheers

Jonny 

[RedRobin]

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....I would have thought that forum members' opinions about Regal are highly relevant.

[illyun]

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....I would have thought that forum members' opinions about Regal are highly relevant.

Maybe they aren't relevant to this thread - of course we could start a separate thread where they WOULD be relevant    I'm still smarting over the fact that my S3 intercooler thread was wiped out instead of offending comments by a certain forum member being removed like was done here... arbitrary rules methinks 

[jv]

This one?
http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=104330.0

[topher]

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....I would have thought that forum members' opinions about Regal are highly relevant.

As illyun said, not in this thread, but feel free to start a new thread in chat-vw to ask others their opinion of the company. Whatever personal gripe you may have with them is entirely irrelevant to this group buy offer. I have serious personal issues with VWR but you won't catch me on my soapbox every time someone mentions them, especially not if they're offering 100 quid off something.
Illyun I assume you mean your post about your CEL not the intercooler thread.. well that was binned because it was actually you, in your second post, who lit the blue touch paper and instigated the whole situation.

Anyway enough of that, let's remain on topic as PMs are the place to discuss that sort of thing.

[Hurdy]

I wouldnt mind asking a few questions...

The advantages of the Stage 1 software are:

* Raised Rev limits in excess of 7000RPM
* Shorter reaction time on Manual shifts
* Two stage throttle sensitivity for differentiation between hard throttle use and Full throttle.

Why would rev limits in excess of 7000RPM be beneficial? If you take a stock power curve for the 2.0 TFSi it tails off well before 7000RPM. Take a looky here at an Edition 30 on the rollers http://www.johnoldfield.dsl.pipex.com/images/weblog/std_ed30_awesome_june2008_dyno_large.jpg

I'd be very interested to hear about the two stage thorttle sensivity as I dont really think much to the stock "kick-down" system. When it says two-stage can you explain that anymore? This is where imo the DSG system could be improved - it's use of the throttle position sensor.

Rev limits to 7,100 revs would be very beneficial to a DSG ED30. The K04 turbo is capable of making more power above the 6k limit you are talking about. Manuals continue making power over the 6k limit, but the DSG prepares for changing gear and inhibits power development over 6k in readiness for an upchange and disengagement of the clutchpack. Raising the change level means that you free up an extra 1k of revs for the power to be fully utilised.